From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2067 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2004 16:51:11 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Jul 2004 16:51:11 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BnKJ5-0007xa-Uu for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:51:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 13773 invoked by uid 89); 21 Jul 2004 16:51:01 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 2804 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2004 16:51:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:39:00 +0200 From: Christian Birchinger To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <20040721163900.GA31913@netswarm.net> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20040720131405.GW18023@mail.lieber.org> <200407211340.03982.stuart@gentoo.org> <200407211358.45806.tdickenson@devmail.geminidataloggers.co.uk> <200407211415.49115.stuart@gentoo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200407211415.49115.stuart@gentoo.org> X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII, .ps, .rtf, .pdf - *NO* Micosoft Office files please X-Info: No HTML mails please. text/plain is the official email format Organization: Gentoo Linux User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Revisiting GLEP 19 X-Archives-Salt: ad0006ac-f816-4ac4-b06e-1bfe93843112 X-Archives-Hash: aa78a16af69d99f5ccda80f4073a8050 On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 02:15:45PM +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: > On Wednesday 21 July 2004 13:58, Toby Dickenson wrote: > > No need for imagination here.... you can do much of that today with: > > > > emerge --changelog -p -u world > > An XML-based ChangeLog adds semantic meaning, making it much more useful. > It's not too difficult for (most ;-) humans to make sense of our current > ChangeLogs, but tools are always going to be limited in accuracy and > capability. And i don't think XML was invented to be edited by a human. It's a format which gets created an changed by programms. It's a pain for people no matter how cool the syntax highliting might be. > There's also the added side-effect that it would make validating the ChangeLog > very straight forward through a simple XML Schema. XML is fine as long as i don't have to edit it by hand. Almost every other format is nice to handle by people with normal editors. And reading is even worse. Now you a tool to read a Changelog. Ok, maybe i'm the last person which prefers to read such things with less or cat or whatever. Metadata is acceptable it's almost only used by apps which parse it. But a Changelog is something people read with a pager or editor. I'm no fan of using tools for simple stuff like reading logs. Christian -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list