From: Stuart Herbert <stuart@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:43:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200407201643.19910.stuart@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200407200836.05702.absinthe@gentoo.org>
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On Tuesday 20 July 2004 13:36, Dylan Carlson wrote:
> To a limited extent.
The outside world probably doesn't see / know / understand those limits. And
I'm not sure every developer has the same viewpoint on what those limits are
either.
> These days, moreso than the past
> 7-8 years I've been involved in the open source "stuff", I've seen more
> people trying to justify their existence by debating countless minutiae on
> public mailing lists.
Do you think this is a problem that Gentoo is suffering from?
> Ultimately it doesn't matter who mentors who as long as it
> gets done appropriately.
Obviously it did matter to somebody at the time, otherwise a change in mentor
wouldn't have happened. Also, what does it say about confidence in the dev
who is no longer to be the mentor? You say it doesn't matter, but it does
have an impact on how people feel.
Also, from my perspective, this matters going forward. It makes sense to me
that devs who are working on web-based apps are mentored by someone from the
existing herd - or at least that we know they are coming. To help with this,
if I put together a webapp-specific set of questions, could they be
incorporated into the quiz?
I do have a concern that sometimes we try too hard to convert users into devs
when they're not ready, and on the one occaison where I was involved, my
concerns were dismissed.
I don't know how other herds feel about this.
> Devrel is the group that makes those decisions.
From the previous emails, I'm reading it that
a) It's not clear when/if devrel took on the role of making those decisions
(isn't that what recruiters is for?)
b) It's not clear that devrel *is* the group that makes those decisions
I'm not debating that someone probably has to make those decisions.
Best regards,
Stu
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-19 9:20 [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Now with FREE* extra mojo! Tim Yamin
2004-07-19 13:14 ` Daniel Armyr
2004-07-19 13:58 ` Spider
2004-07-19 15:27 ` Joshua Brindle
2004-07-19 18:20 ` [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-19 20:22 ` Corey Shields
2004-07-19 20:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-19 20:55 ` Corey Shields
2004-07-19 21:03 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-19 20:47 ` fmouse-gentoo
2004-07-19 20:57 ` Jason Rhinelander
2004-07-19 21:02 ` Corey Shields
2004-07-19 21:14 ` Tim Yamin
2004-07-19 20:44 ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-19 21:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-19 21:12 ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-19 21:44 ` Spider
2004-07-19 22:03 ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-20 0:31 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-20 5:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-07-19 22:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Grant Goodyear
2004-07-19 23:03 ` Tom Knight
2004-07-19 22:19 ` Grant Goodyear
2004-07-19 23:46 ` Deedra Waters
2004-07-20 0:23 ` Kurt Lieber
2004-07-20 1:38 ` Jon Portnoy
2004-07-20 10:15 ` Chris Bainbridge
2004-07-20 12:36 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-20 15:43 ` Stuart Herbert [this message]
2004-07-20 17:55 ` Kurt Lieber
2004-07-20 21:13 ` Deedra Waters
2004-07-20 21:43 ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-20 21:50 ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-07-20 18:07 ` Jason Rhinelander
2004-07-19 21:49 ` [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Now with FREE* extra mojo! Stuart Herbert
2004-07-22 9:27 ` Stuart Herbert
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