From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24029 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2004 22:31:53 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 19 Jul 2004 22:31:53 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bmgfm-00088L-Nf for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:31:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 17144 invoked by uid 89); 19 Jul 2004 22:31:50 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 8311 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2004 22:31:50 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:30:11 -0400 From: Grant Goodyear To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <20040719223011.GG4107@violet.grantgoodyear.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <40FB9259.4020503@gentoo.org> <40FBE87E.2090505@gentoo.org> <20040719192024.12ae4a5e@snowdrop.home> <200407192144.38087.stuart@gentoo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="maH1Gajj2nflutpK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200407192144.38087.stuart@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? X-Archives-Salt: e0013a54-d5ff-413e-b171-0889e445ec6c X-Archives-Hash: 372edad7d37959ec96588a43bd4410eb --maH1Gajj2nflutpK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stuart Herbert wrote: [Mon Jul 19 2004, 04:44:37PM EDT] > > * The ability to arbitrarily suspend or remove developers (without > > providing notice or reason to the people who actually work with the > > developer in question). >=20 > Isn't that what the ombudsman is for? To be specific, the ombudsman office is supposed to serve as a neutral (as possible) body that attempts to mediate disputes. The ombudsman office never suspends or removes anybody. > Btw, what was that about a probation period *before* cvs access was grant= ed? =20 > I was never quite clear how the would-be dev in question was supposed to= =20 > successfully complete a probation when he wasn't actually a dev yet, and= =20 > therefore couldn't do anything. My understanding from talking to recruiters a few weeks back is that it's not really a "probation" period; it's a waiting period. It's there to weed out the folks who decide they want to become a dev on a lark, but who aren't really willing to follow through. The new-developer policy is detailed on the recruiters page on www.g.o (under projects/devrel). Again, these policies are the best that the recruiters team have come up with so far. If you have helpful suggestions (or serious concerns), by all means bring them up. > devrel don't have the easiest job in the world, and I'm sure those of us = who=20 > enjoy our freedom of speech don't make it any easier :) I think it'd be= =20 > great to see them conduct their business a little less in the shadows tho= ugh,=20 > so that they can maintain the goodwill of the developer community at larg= e. Fair enough. What do you see as the most egregious cases, and let's start there. Best, g2boojum --=20 Grant Goodyear=09 Gentoo Developer g2boojum@gentoo.org http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 --maH1Gajj2nflutpK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/EtzptxxUuD2W3YRAjeBAJ4+tnripS/qWr757n3KR+fyLDL6ZACfU6vU SyD/KwX6WXYFuVPJyL1Vwps= =UYOi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --maH1Gajj2nflutpK--