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From: Grant Goodyear <g2boojum@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:30:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040719223011.GG4107@violet.grantgoodyear.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200407192144.38087.stuart@gentoo.org>

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Stuart Herbert wrote: [Mon Jul 19 2004, 04:44:37PM EDT]
> > * The ability to arbitrarily suspend or remove developers (without
> > providing notice or reason to the people who actually work with the
> > developer in question).
> 
> Isn't that what the ombudsman is for?

To be specific, the ombudsman office is supposed to serve as a neutral
(as possible) body that attempts to mediate disputes.  The ombudsman
office never suspends or removes anybody.

> Btw, what was that about a probation period *before* cvs access was granted?  
> I was never quite clear how the would-be dev in question was supposed to 
> successfully complete a probation when he wasn't actually a dev yet, and 
> therefore couldn't do anything.

My understanding from talking to recruiters a few weeks back is that
it's not really a "probation" period; it's a waiting period.  It's there
to weed out the folks who decide they want to become a dev on a lark,
but who aren't really willing to follow through.

The new-developer policy is detailed on the recruiters page on www.g.o
(under projects/devrel).  Again, these policies are the best that the
recruiters team have come up with so far.  If you have helpful
suggestions (or serious concerns), by all means bring them up.

> devrel don't have the easiest job in the world, and I'm sure those of us who 
> enjoy our freedom of speech don't make it any easier :)  I think it'd be 
> great to see them conduct their business a little less in the shadows though, 
> so that they can maintain the goodwill of the developer community at large.

Fair enough.  What do you see as the most egregious cases, and let's
start there.

Best,
g2boojum
-- 
Grant Goodyear	
Gentoo Developer
g2boojum@gentoo.org
http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-07-19 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-19  9:20 [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Now with FREE* extra mojo! Tim Yamin
2004-07-19 13:14 ` Daniel Armyr
2004-07-19 13:58 ` Spider
2004-07-19 15:27   ` Joshua Brindle
2004-07-19 18:20     ` [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-19 20:22       ` Corey Shields
2004-07-19 20:35         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-19 20:55           ` Corey Shields
2004-07-19 21:03             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-19 20:47         ` fmouse-gentoo
2004-07-19 20:57         ` Jason Rhinelander
2004-07-19 21:02           ` Corey Shields
2004-07-19 21:14           ` Tim Yamin
2004-07-19 20:44       ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-19 21:06         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-19 21:12           ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-19 21:44             ` Spider
2004-07-19 22:03               ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-20  0:31                 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-20  5:10               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-07-19 22:30         ` Grant Goodyear [this message]
2004-07-19 23:03         ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Knight
2004-07-19 22:19       ` Grant Goodyear
2004-07-19 23:46         ` Deedra Waters
2004-07-20  0:23       ` Kurt Lieber
2004-07-20  1:38         ` Jon Portnoy
2004-07-20 10:15           ` Chris Bainbridge
2004-07-20 12:36             ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-20 15:43               ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-20 17:55                 ` Kurt Lieber
2004-07-20 21:13                 ` Deedra Waters
2004-07-20 21:43                   ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-20 21:50           ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-07-20 18:07         ` Jason Rhinelander
2004-07-19 21:49 ` [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Now with FREE* extra mojo! Stuart Herbert
2004-07-22  9:27 ` Stuart Herbert

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