From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12520 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2004 20:37:47 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 19 Jul 2004 20:37:47 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BmetO-0000Pg-8w for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:37:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 1649 invoked by uid 89); 19 Jul 2004 20:37:45 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 11980 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2004 20:37:45 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:35:12 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-Id: <20040719213512.34f8e42e@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <200407191522.58101.cshields@gentoo.org> References: <40FB9259.4020503@gentoo.org> <40FBE87E.2090505@gentoo.org> <20040719192024.12ae4a5e@snowdrop.home> <200407191522.58101.cshields@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="Signature=_Mon__19_Jul_2004_21_35_12_+0100_F9wU0UAtqaaaUUFg" Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? X-Archives-Salt: f2d0aded-776d-4137-954c-6023c693388b X-Archives-Hash: 8beb69adef82cc955030e87e278e3073 --Signature=_Mon__19_Jul_2004_21_35_12_+0100_F9wU0UAtqaaaUUFg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:22:58 -0500 Corey Shields wrote: | Nobody on the devrel team is getting their jollies from "policing | developers", and if there wasn't a need for it then you wouldn't see | it. The problem is that some people have acted or said some pretty | offensive things while acting on behalf of Gentoo in the eyes of the | victim. That can't be put up with, and personally I'm not open to be | persuaded otherwise. Whether developers realize it or not, there are | corporations and large organizations watching, and some of them | migrating to Gentoo. As a distribution, we can't tolerate developers | being jerks to other people, especially our users. I know this first | hand, because my place of employment was about to pack up and walk | away from Gentoo altogether after one such altercation between one of | our employees and a dev. | | I don't think it is asking too much of people to treat each other | appropriately. If that is the case, then you won't see devrel's | involvement and there is no problem. So large corporations depend upon devrel reassigning mentors *without bothering to inform the original mentor*? Uh huh... -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Sparc, MIPS, Vim, Fluxbox) Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm --Signature=_Mon__19_Jul_2004_21_35_12_+0100_F9wU0UAtqaaaUUFg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/DCH96zL6DUtXhERAnzYAKCGFGb7vbuE3D3k6hv4c4O7KcoCJACgtaB7 pQhA3Yi6xW455aOZnRumWw8= =SCRK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Mon__19_Jul_2004_21_35_12_+0100_F9wU0UAtqaaaUUFg--