On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:27:58 -0400 Joshua Brindle wrote: | > No more flaming? erm. | > | > I'd better stop showing up on freenode I think. You'll find me on | > jabber/ICQ in case you want me in a nonregulated environment. | > | | Perhaps it's time for us less socially desirable devs to stand up to | the devrel regime and show them who's boss ;) Well, you could, but the devrel self-granted powers list suggests that you won't get very far: * The ability to arbitrarily suspend or remove developers (without providing notice or reason to the people who actually work with the developer in question). * The ability to decide to change the mentor for a new developer without even bothering to tell the original mentor, let alone providing a reason to the people involved. and the latest: * The ability to impose arbitrary restrictions upon what developers are and are not allowed to say on IRC and the mailing lists. I'm sure devrel aren't actively out to set themselves up as the new spanish inquisition. However, it seems I'm not the only one that's noticed them moving from a "helping developers" role to "policing developers" instead, and I'd like to know what devrel's stance on this is. Come to think of it, I remember a certain former manager bringing this exact point up shortly before he left. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Sparc, MIPS, Vim, Fluxbox) Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm