From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25484 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2004 16:08:51 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Jul 2004 16:08:51 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BjKPC-0006tg-Ke for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:08:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 31336 invoked by uid 89); 10 Jul 2004 16:08:50 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 11910 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2004 16:08:49 +0000 From: Jason Stubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 01:06:02 +0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.52 References: <200407091106.23915.tradergt@smelser.org> In-Reply-To: <200407091106.23915.tradergt@smelser.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200407110106.05798.jstubbs@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE 3.2.3 X-Archives-Salt: 64680033-6bb3-4056-b90f-ffb88d74baea X-Archives-Hash: 2c326a4c7ddefda31e5a9ffffe00e393 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've followed this whole thread and you seem to be saying that you don't=20 understand why non-KDE devs replied and why it was taken so negatively.=20 Therefore, I'll explain how your original email was perceived (at least to= =20 me) so that perhaps you can see the other side of the fence. I could do thi= s=20 for every email you've sent, but I hope that you'll do it yourself. On Saturday 10 July 2004 01:06, Jeff Smelser wrote: > Dev's, > > Its becoming increasingly common place these days for program to sit in > ~x86 for a long time. You've opened here addressing the entire developer-base of Gentoo. You've t= hen=20 gone on to say that we're all lazy. > I am curious why this is? This sounds like an honest question on its own, but sounds very sarcastic i= n=20 the context of the previous statement. > Kde 3.2.3 is still in testing. Whats taking so long? Again, fairly innocent question but, even on its own, it has a very=20 self-centered overtone. In the context of what you wrote previously, it's=20 just a personal attack on Gentoo's KDE maintainer(s). > June 24 is a long time to test a production ready application, as kde fee= ls=20 > it is.=20 This shows that the package in question has been in testing for a total of = 16=20 days. This also shows that you haven't looked into what a dev's job is. In the context of the whole thread, i think those five words "as kde feels = it=20 is" might have been the whole point of your email - "why aren't releases th= at=20 upstream believe to be stable considered stable by Gentoo?" If you had of=20 asked that providing the context of KDE 3.2.3 being tested for 16 days, I=20 guarantee you would have got a better respone. > There are other packages I have found I am having to force upgrading myse= lf > on these days just to get. This has no merit what so ever to the question your asking or any point you= r=20 trying to make and so just sounds like a whinge... > mysql is still on 4.018, they are on 20 now.=20 =2E..and then you go on to make another personal attack on the mysql=20 maintainer(s). > Whats going on over there? > Jeff You then signoff by broadening your personal attack to include every Gentoo= =20 developer. =2D ------- I hope you can understand why everybody got so negative toward you. If you= =20 look over your other emails in an objective manner, you'll find them litter= ed=20 with the same sorts of (from your viewpoint, mis-)interpretations as what=20 I've outlined above. Especially if it's via email and especially if it is=20 possibly a delicate topic, ask a question as tersely as possible so that it= =20 and only it is answered. Regards, Jason Stubbs =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBQPAT7FoikN4/5jfsAQKjvQP/SHtUhAuH+ZCjr7yYukQEO+cPC/CCF1JU x5Tx0ImvK5GrnAZvenlD/jADnGdshen66JYqg0zsVHM4mrV9TQufj7J89PR0FQO8 =462uIHB/mv+Upv6QVdOAA2xMdSN3ZHRMoLt/zPEqCnRzJwDS5u92vdkR4Gq+xV4/e M+Zn7DQMxGE=3D =3D7eT3 =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list