From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13363 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2004 23:16:21 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jul 2004 23:16:21 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bj4bM-0001rm-96 for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:16:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 164 invoked by uid 89); 9 Jul 2004 23:16:19 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 9807 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2004 23:16:19 +0000 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 01:16:14 +0200 From: Spider To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-Id: <20040710011614.1a86df1d.spider@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <40EEF952.8030405@skylineaero.com> References: <1089375713.8755.5.camel@antares.hausnetz> <1089380082.32612.3.camel@woot.uberdavis.com> <1089384178.11036.43.camel@localhost> <20040709153740.GA7982@orange-pc.ces.clemson.edu> <1089389500.11041.64.camel@localhost> <1089393350.32612.63.camel@woot.uberdavis.com> <1089397680.11041.121.camel@localhost> <40EEF952.8030405@skylineaero.com> Organization: Gentoo.org X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.9-gtk2-20040229 (GTK+ 2.4.3; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="Signature=_Sat__10_Jul_2004_01_16_14_+0200_7uoywhqKDxHk1Yem" Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] x86 2004.2 Profile X-Archives-Salt: 0f6e9bae-eed6-4a6e-962e-8dc7596c9f07 X-Archives-Hash: 9ee11ec0d8bbc9fbb9d181eb794ac001 --Signature=_Sat__10_Jul_2004_01_16_14_+0200_7uoywhqKDxHk1Yem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin quote On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:00:18 -0500 Andrew Gaffney wrote: > I don't understand why the switch from xfree to xorg-x11 is a big > deal. They are currently source and binary compatible. Almost > everything (if not everything) works the same with xorg-x11 as it did > with xfree. Except that if you do something like this : emerge sync; emerge -u world cp -a /etc/X11/XF86Config /etc/ssh /etc/pass* /etc/grou* /etc/shad* /etc/conf.d /etc/pcmcia /etc/rc.conf /var/lib/portage/world /backup reformat, unpack the -same- stage3, and then restore them... oops. suddenly things don't work because even when they are binary compatible, they aren't config compatible, and users should be able to expect that if they install the same applications (face it, the world file isn't likely to contain the xfree version, most likely it contains mozilla, Gnome, KDE, xfce or other such thing that brought X in as a dependency ) They will get them. We currently break reliability often, which is a pretty bad thing. :-/ only by actually doing things like this new profile, can we in fact increase reliability. //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end --Signature=_Sat__10_Jul_2004_01_16_14_+0200_7uoywhqKDxHk1Yem Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA7ydBZS9CZTi033kRAkEpAJ4x/TYEMSIBqTwZGgh9ddy1hZi6wQCfd+BG aL/2+SWX3gkHFMleQygbde4= =eujU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sat__10_Jul_2004_01_16_14_+0200_7uoywhqKDxHk1Yem--