From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20477 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2004 23:18:09 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jul 2004 23:18:09 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bj4d6-0001Rd-42 for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:18:08 +0000 Received: (qmail 24893 invoked by uid 89); 9 Jul 2004 23:18:07 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 29070 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2004 23:18:07 +0000 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:16:36 -0700 From: Greg KH To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <20040709231636.GC8305@kroah.com> References: <20040709212736.GA5669@kroah.com> <20040709233238.6f090627@snowdrop.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040709233238.6f090627@snowdrop.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] kernel team: please make up your mind X-Archives-Salt: e09eafdf-e3ce-4257-9858-a64f26baaf85 X-Archives-Hash: 49ed665e6a07e5a58135a34202b33267 On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 11:32:38PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 14:27:36 -0700 Greg KH wrote: > | - development-sources are clean kernel.org kernels > > Since when? This is not what we were told when John helped us to move > our sparc patchset from sparc-dev-sources to his shiny new kernel-2 > powered development-sources. We were given lengthy assurances that we > would a) be able to keep our sparc patchset there without having to > worry about it b) conflicting with the horridly broken gentoo- patchset > and c) it being repeatedly broken by people doing "security bumps". > > We already know that c) hasn't been happening, and our requests for > certain people to show more care when dealing with other archs have > fallen upon deaf ears. Now we're being told that a) and b) are no longer > any good either? Ok, sorry about this. John went away for a long period of time, and I took over the kernel stuff for him. I never was aware of this issue, and by reading the metadata file, I thought this was the case (also see the point about the vanilla kernel.) So, after the sparc patches get moved into the g-d-s package, this package will be a clean kernel.org kernel only. Is that ok with you? > | - gentoo-dev-sources are the current 2.6 kernel trees for all > | arches. There is no cesspool of patches in there, and it is > | the kernel for the ppc64, amd64, x86, and a few other arches. > | Making it the sparc kernel too is no big deal. > > Of course it's a big deal. We've already made our users change kernel > sets once. Now we're going to have to go through all this again because > the kernel team don't talk to each other? And you also expect us to deal > with people who assume that anything labeled gentoo-dev-sources will > include the gentoo- patchset? Sent those people to me. I'm more than willing to fix that incorrect assumption :) > To be honest, given the history on this, I think the ideal solution for > this would be an arch-dev-sources which was locked in cvs so that > over-zealous x86-kernel and security people *couldn't* go and break our > kernels *yet again*. If you want to have a sparc-*-sources tree, fine with me. I'll never touch it (even for security fixes and other good stuff that you could get for free by using the g-d-s package...) That's your call. I'm offering to help put sparc stuff into g-d-s. If the sparc people don't want to do that for whatever reason, I'm also ok with that, as long as they don't use the d-s kernel package either. Fair enough? thanks, greg k-h -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list