From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6460 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2004 17:35:46 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jul 2004 17:35:46 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BizHl-0004YB-Fq for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:35:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 24529 invoked by uid 89); 9 Jul 2004 17:35:45 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 7890 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2004 17:35:44 +0000 From: Jeff Smelser To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:35:41 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200407091106.23915.tradergt@smelser.org> <200407091203.48247.tradergt@smelser.org> <200407091217.21618.caleb@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200407091217.21618.caleb@gentoo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200407091235.41445.tradergt@smelser.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE 3.2.3 X-Archives-Salt: fd8360ba-8acc-4184-a094-bad8c33c8f93 X-Archives-Hash: a2d624d85a4051316f16959a4eb3cda9 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 09 July 2004 12:17 pm, Caleb Tennis wrote: > Your concern is a valid one. The simple fact is that we are short handed. > This is true for all of Gentoo, not just KDE. I've been spending my time > the past few weeks testing 3.3.0_beta1, not running 3.2.3. I've upgrade > kdenetwork with the patched kopete since this time as well. There's no > main reason KDE has sat in ~x86 this long other than I simply haven't > gotten around to bumping it. The fact is that, with the way portage is > structured and the commands you have to use to properly make the > submittals, it takes me well over an hour to bump a version for KDE.=20 > Considering the fact that it's volunteer time on my part, it gets put down > on my priority list. An hour to bump? That seems out of hand. And no, I am not saying YOUR taki= ng=20 to long. :) The process itself > So, if you want to be part of the solution, start being proactive in > helping to fix bugs and get ebuilds submitted. I am kinda laughing when I say this. I don't because I have seen ebuilds si= t=20 in bugs.g.o for months. No one wants to pick them up because they don't hav= e=20 time to maintain more. I got sysklogd-sql I would love to submit and=20 maintain. I am afraid if will sit in bugs.gentoo.org though.=20 > It just so happens that the point you make gets made quite frequently, be > it on a mailing list, in IRC or in bugs.g.o, and it gets to be a bit > frustrating to have to try and explain over and over again. I'm not upset > or mad or anything at you, I understand where you're coming from with your > post, but look at things the other way around: some of us developers have > been doing this "volunteer" job for a long time now; it's a bit frustrati= ng > with someone comes along and basically throws out a "someone really should > be more on top of this" attitude, which is what is perceived. Its not. Its a look into how this process can be quicker, yes, but I am her= e=20 to help if I am needed. But just like you said, which is what I was afraid= =20 of, 3.2.3 is ready, its just not been done.=20 I have seen on this list before, why not create some automated way of bumpi= ng=20 ebuild that have sitting untouched for x number of days? You can still=20 release it early if need be but it can help out on the forgotten or no time= =20 for ebuilds that sit? > That said, there's absolutely no harm in kde sitting as ~x86 for 3.2.3.=20 > It's still completely installable, and portage is configurable enough so = as > to not complain to you to downgrade. But this becomes rather cumbersome having to do this all the time. Again, k= de=20 isn't the only one having this issue. Jeff =2D --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Jabber: tradergt@(smelser.org|jabber.org) Quote: Have you hugged your volcano today? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA7tdtld4MRA3gEwYRAozyAJ4qbZdwUQrBxnBlPvfMvRTQbfgyzACg6NFY 67p38ulNpW9ai/Cei+XKPfg=3D =3DwbXs =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list