From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24249 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2004 16:40:56 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jul 2004 16:40:56 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiyQf-0006Bz-Qn for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 16:40:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 22419 invoked by uid 89); 9 Jul 2004 16:40:53 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 1398 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2004 16:40:53 +0000 From: Jeff Smelser To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 11:40:50 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200407091106.23915.tradergt@smelser.org> <1089390497.11041.76.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1089390497.11041.76.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407091140.50435.tradergt@smelser.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE 3.2.3 X-Archives-Salt: 81eadf70-86c1-4eca-b5bf-fe2560b41e90 X-Archives-Hash: 305bdd677a315b2173d72f51fba44f44 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 09 July 2004 11:28 am, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > We do not rely on the upstream author's indications on whether a package > is stable in our tree or not. There are many reasons for this, > including the fact that we allow for easily changing of CFLAGS and other > compilation options that can affect an installation. I am aware. > Is it 100% necessary to stay on the latest package? Was there a > security vulnerability fixed by the new version? If not, upgrading > simply because there is a newer version isn't always our top priority. > Often times, we are simply too busy to write a new ebuild, test the new > ebuild, and commit it for every version. In many cases we are > understaffed, even with our enormous developer base. You missed it. Both of these HAVE ebuilds.. Its just a matter of changing them over to x86 from ~x86. Thats my point, how hard can this be? Yes, Kde sent out a maintance release, and kdenetwork has the fix for the yahoo bug. > You have to remember that many of us are volunteers and are unable to > spend a large amount of time on Gentoo. We have jobs, families, and > other commitments than Gentoo. Your right. Read above, the time was spend already creating the ebuilds. AND, new ebuilds are being created but nothing is being moved to x86. Thats my issue. Not about when the ebuilds are created. > With Gentoo, it really does hold true that if you want something done, > you should do it yourself. Create ebuilds. Post them to > bugs.gentoo.org. If you think a package has been in testing too long, > report not only on your failures, but also on your successes. Many > times packages will be delayed simply because there hasn't been enough > testing done, or the package simply gets forgotten about for a while. > We are a community-based distribution. For things to get done quickly, > we *require* the help of the community. Read above. And I do create ebuilds when I need them. And I have upgraded to the new kde. That doesn't change the fact that its a pain to stay in x86 when you manually have to upgrade things all the time since they sit in the ~x86 tree for months.. (in some cases) And don't give me emails about moving up to ~x86. Why have the two versions for a reason. if we are all gonna sit in ~x86, then why even go have it. Jeff - -- ======================================================================= Jabber: tradergt@(smelser.org|jabber.org) Quote: Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in reality. ======================================================================= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA7sqSld4MRA3gEwYRAsTSAKDE7U0ghOkak91IwgU/ijUzLq7ytACgvepm 8QQi8t0la9nRPPO+KJOhRUg= =EdiS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list