From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18882 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2004 01:03:48 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 5 Jul 2004 01:03:48 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhHtb-0004LL-WB for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 01:03:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 32242 invoked by uid 89); 5 Jul 2004 01:03:47 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 8271 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2004 01:03:47 +0000 From: Dylan Carlson Reply-To: absinthe@gentoo.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 21:01:49 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <40E4B84B.1040501@scms.waikato.ac.nz> <200407030234.18628.absinthe@gentoo.org> <40E881B6.2010700@scms.waikato.ac.nz> In-Reply-To: <40E881B6.2010700@scms.waikato.ac.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407042101.49322.absinthe@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Policy for retirement of old gentoo 'versions' X-Archives-Salt: bc1c244e-0fc0-46ac-bbf3-0a78f67bfec4 X-Archives-Hash: 8c8ba95ec3bcc620f507d0db460716df On Sunday 04 July 2004 6:16 pm, Barry Shaw wrote: > We've got about 250 machines currently gentooed, > with more to come, so we might be able to offer some insights into large > scale installations. Very nice. Yes, I would love to know more about how you're using Gentoo commercially. In the past, I've done some production installs of FreeBSD with success, but not w/Linux yet. A Gentoo deployment should be more controllable, in my estimation, than FreeBSD, but there's a lot of work to be done on both to make them more sane for commercial environments. IMO, the first priority is just minimizing the rate/amt of change. That's half the battle. IT folks can't be burdened with the minutae of researching & testing lots of tiny little package updates. The "don't rsync" solution is a kludge... we need something a tad more thoughtful, functional than that. :-) If you don't mind my asking, how many of your Gentoo machines are workstations? Servers? What kind of work is done on these machines? Cheers, Dylan Carlson [absinthe@gentoo.org] Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x708E165F -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list