[gentoo-dev] gdm-2.6.0.3, XOrg/Gnome problems with Xkb Options and Xorg/xfs problem

[gentoo-dev] gdm-2.6.0.3, XOrg/Gnome problems with Xkb Options and Xorg/xfs problem

[Kevin]

Hi Folks-

Any particular reason why gdm-2.6.0.3 (latest) is not in portage?  I see 
that gnome 2.6 has been in portage for awhile now, and I have 2.6.1_rc1 
installed, but the latest gdm ebuild in portage is still 2.4.4.7-r1.

I just renamed my 2.4.4.7-r1 gdm ebuild in portage, put it in my overlay 
dir, renamed the selinux patch in files/ and wala, got a nice 2.6 gdm 
(which apparently has many new features over 2.4, though I haven't 
explored them at all yet).

While I'm asking about gdm, can anyone comment on these XOrg/Gnome 
problems I'm having (recently posted to gentoo-user but which elicited 
no replies)?

I recently upgraded from xfree-4.3.0-r5 to xorg-x11-6.7.0-r1 and am 
having some problems.  I've read the related posts in gentoo-user and 
gentoo-dev and in the forums, but don't see solutions to these issues 
being reported by anyone (though someone else in gentoo-user reported 
the same Xkb problem).

One of my problems is apparently with the XKB options in the DeviceInput 
section of xorg.conf, but it only seems to show up when starting gnome 
and then only when I login in to gdm as root.

I'm running this on an HP/compaq nx9010 laptop computer and I used the 
xorg.conf file found here 
http://www.freax.be/files/rh9_nx9010/fedora_-_xorg.conf as a base for 
my own.  I made some modifications to it based on the xorg docs I've 
read.

The hardware in this laptop is as follows:
P4 2.4GHz
512MB RAM
Bus1, Device5, Function0: ATI Radeon IGP 340M (rev 0)

I'm using the radeon driver that is included in the XOrg package because 
it's the only one that seems to give me a functional X display at all.  
I do have ati-drivers and ati-drivers-extra installed, but when I use 
the "fglrx" driver from ati-drivers in my xorg.conf file, X refuses to 
start at all.  The server reports no devices found so I guess the fglrx 
driver does not support the Radeon IGP 340M, but isn't that driver from 
ATI?  I tried the opengl-update ati command after putting fglrx in the 
Driver parameters of xorg.conf and before starting xdm (gdm), but no 
help there either.

The man 4 radeon page shows 2D-only support for this card/chip with this 
driver.  I'd like to have 3D support, but as I said, fglrx won't start 
up X.

Using the radeon driver, when I start X with XSESSION in make.conf set 
to Gnome (logging into gdm as root), I get a dialog that says:

===============
Error activating XKB configuration.
Probably internal X server problem.

X server version data:
Gentoo Linux (The X.Org Foundation 6.7.0, revision r1-1.1)
60700000

If you report this situation as a bug, please include:
-The result of xprop -root | grep XKB
-The result of gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/xkb
===============

I've pasted the output of these commands here:

===============
_XKB_RULES_NAMES_BACKUP(STRING) = "xorg", "pc105", "us", "", ""
_XKB_RULES_NAMES(STRING) = "xorg", "pc105", "us", "", ""
===============

===============
 layouts = [us]
 model = pc105
 overrideSettings = false
 options = []
===============

I don't get this when I log in as a normal user.  Anyone know how to fix 
this or is it something I should even be concerned about (probably won't 
login to gdm as root very often---but are there other hidden 
consequences?)?

I don't get this when I login using kdm to start kde or when I use 
startx/.xinitrc to start enlightenment or fvwm or twm.  I'm using all 
of the latest packages (xorg-x11-6.7.0-r1, kde-3.2.3, gnome-2.6.1_rc1, 
fvwm-2.5.10-r5, enlightenment-0.16.7_pre4).

I've followed the guidance at 
http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.7.0/doc/XKB-Config.html, but can't 
seem to resolve this problem with any clues there.  In fact, I think my 
xorg.conf file has the exact same options they describe using there 
(except pc105).

Below, I've included my xorg.conf file in case it helps someone figure 
out what's going on here.  I initially had "xfree" in the XkbRules 
Option parameter and that gave the same results.

===================

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "Default Layout"
        Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
        Screen      1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"

        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
        #InputDevice    "DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore"
EndSection

Section "Files"
        RgbPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
        FontPath     "tcp/localhost:7100"
EndSection

Section "Module"
        Load  "dbe"
        Load  "extmod"
        Load  "fbdevhw"
        Load  "glx"
        Load  "record"
        Load  "freetype"
        Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "keyboard"
        Option      "XkbRules" "xorg"
        Option      "XkbModel" "pc105"
        Option      "XkbLayout" "us"
        Option      "XkbOptions" ""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/mouse"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
        Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
EndSection


Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
        ModelName    "Generic Laptop Display Panel 1024x768"
        Option      "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor1"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier   "First ATI Radeon Mobility IGP 345M"
        Driver       "radeon"
        VendorName   "ATI Radeon Mobility"
        BoardName    "Radeon Mobility IGP 345M"
        BusID        "PCI:1:5:0"
        Option       "AGPMode" "4"
        Screen       0
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier      "Second ATI Radeon Mobility IGP 345M"
    Driver          "radeon"
    BusID           "PCI:1:5:0"
    VendorName      "ATI Radeon Mobility IGP 345M"
    BoardName       "Radeon Mobility IGP 345M"
    Screen          1
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "First ATI Radeon Mobility IGP 345M"
        Monitor    "Monitor0"
        DefaultDepth     24
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     16
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen1"
        Device     "Second ATI Radeon Mobility IGP 345M"
        Monitor    "Monitor1"
        DefaultDepth     24
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     16
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
        Group        0
        Mode         0666
EndSection


Section "ServerFlags"
    Option "Xinerama" "true"
EndSection
===================

I'm also having difficulty getting X to work with the X Font Server 
using unix sockets (thus the tcp port mentioned above).  The xorg.conf 
man page states:

==================
FontPath "path"
sets the search path for fonts.  This path is a comma  separated
list  of  font  path elements which the Xorg server searches for
font databases.  Multiple FontPath entries may be specified, and
they  will  be concatenated to build up the fontpath used by the
server.  Font path elements may  be  either  absolute  directory
paths,  or  a  font  server identifier.  Font server identifiers
have the form:

    <trans>/<hostname>:<port-number>

where <trans> is the transport type to use  to  connect  to  the
font server (e.g., 1 for UNIX-domain sockets or tcp for a TCP/IP
connection), <hostname> is the hostname of the  machine  running
the  font  server, and <port-number> is the port number that the
font server is listening on (usually 7100).
==================

But I couldn't get X to start using either "1" or "unix" (older syntax?) 
in the place of <trans> above in any combination.  Does the hostname 
need to be present with unix sockets?  What about the port number?  I 
tried with and without hostname/port to no avail.

Can anyone point out any mistakes in my configs here?  Or perhaps offer 
suggestions on solutions?  I'd be glad to follow up with 
my /var/log/Xorg.0.log file with various parameters changed if it would 
help.

TIA.

-Kevin

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Re: [gentoo-dev] gdm-2.6.0.3, XOrg/Gnome problems with Xkb Options and Xorg/xfs problem

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 10:20, Kevin wrote:
> Hi Folks-
> 
> Any particular reason why gdm-2.6.0.3 (latest) is not in portage?  I see 
> that gnome 2.6 has been in portage for awhile now, and I have 2.6.1_rc1 
> installed, but the latest gdm ebuild in portage is still 2.4.4.7-r1.

> I just renamed my 2.4.4.7-r1 gdm ebuild in portage, put it in my overlay 
> dir, renamed the selinux patch in files/ and wala, got a nice 2.6 gdm 
> (which apparently has many new features over 2.4, though I haven't 
> explored them at all yet).

You should probably check bugs.gentoo.org, which is where any show
stopping bugs would be that would block the upgrade.  If there are no
such bugs, then it would be a good idea for you to submit a feature
request to have the newer version added to portage.

> While I'm asking about gdm, can anyone comment on these XOrg/Gnome 
> problems I'm having (recently posted to gentoo-user but which elicited 
> no replies)?
> 
> I recently upgraded from xfree-4.3.0-r5 to xorg-x11-6.7.0-r1 and am 
> having some problems.  I've read the related posts in gentoo-user and 
> gentoo-dev and in the forums, but don't see solutions to these issues 
> being reported by anyone (though someone else in gentoo-user reported 
> the same Xkb problem).
> 
> One of my problems is apparently with the XKB options in the DeviceInput 
> section of xorg.conf, but it only seems to show up when starting gnome 
> and then only when I login in to gdm as root.
> 
> I'm running this on an HP/compaq nx9010 laptop computer and I used the 
> xorg.conf file found here 
> http://www.freax.be/files/rh9_nx9010/fedora_-_xorg.conf as a base for 
> my own.  I made some modifications to it based on the xorg docs I've 
> read.
> 
> The hardware in this laptop is as follows:
> P4 2.4GHz
> 512MB RAM
> Bus1, Device5, Function0: ATI Radeon IGP 340M (rev 0)
> 
> I'm using the radeon driver that is included in the XOrg package because 
> it's the only one that seems to give me a functional X display at all.  
> I do have ati-drivers and ati-drivers-extra installed, but when I use 
> the "fglrx" driver from ati-drivers in my xorg.conf file, X refuses to 
> start at all.  The server reports no devices found so I guess the fglrx 
> driver does not support the Radeon IGP 340M, but isn't that driver from 
> ATI?  I tried the opengl-update ati command after putting fglrx in the 
> Driver parameters of xorg.conf and before starting xdm (gdm), but no 
> help there either.

Are you sure the driver supports the card?  ATI are a little slow and
getting drivers for newer cards into the package.  If you are sure that
the driver supports your card, I would suggest filing a bug on
bugs.gentoo.org and letting the maintainer take a look at it.

> The man 4 radeon page shows 2D-only support for this card/chip with this 
> driver.  I'd like to have 3D support, but as I said, fglrx won't start 
> up X.
> 
> Using the radeon driver, when I start X with XSESSION in make.conf set 
> to Gnome (logging into gdm as root), I get a dialog that says:

<snip>

> I don't get this when I log in as a normal user.  Anyone know how to fix 
> this or is it something I should even be concerned about (probably won't 
> login to gdm as root very often---but are there other hidden 
> consequences?)?
> 
> I don't get this when I login using kdm to start kde or when I use 
> startx/.xinitrc to start enlightenment or fvwm or twm.  I'm using all 
> of the latest packages (xorg-x11-6.7.0-r1, kde-3.2.3, gnome-2.6.1_rc1, 
> fvwm-2.5.10-r5, enlightenment-0.16.7_pre4).
> 
> I've followed the guidance at 
> http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.7.0/doc/XKB-Config.html, but can't 
> seem to resolve this problem with any clues there.  In fact, I think my 
> xorg.conf file has the exact same options they describe using there 
> (except pc105).

Why not just remove all of the XKB stuff from your configuration?  It
doesn't look like you need it at all, and xorg-x11 will function fine
without it.  As an example, here is my InputDevice section with my
keyboard in it:

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "keyboard"
EndSection

> I'm also having difficulty getting X to work with the X Font Server 
> using unix sockets (thus the tcp port mentioned above).  The xorg.conf 
> man page states:

I won't be able to help you on that one, I just use the font paths.

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Release Engineering QA Manager/Games Developer
Gentoo Linux

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Re: [gentoo-dev] XOrg/Gnome problems with Xkb Options (was gdm-2.6.0.3, XOrg/Gnome...)

[Kevin]

On Friday 25 June 2004 10:57, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
<snip>
>
> You should probably check bugs.gentoo.org, which is where any show
> stopping bugs would be that would block the upgrade.  If there are no
> such bugs, then it would be a good idea for you to submit a feature
> request to have the newer version added to portage.

Good idea.  I should've done that before writing here I guess.  Sorry.  
From Bug 46794, it looks like someone already brought this up in April, 
so I'll drop it.  Anyway, I already have the functionality that I want, 
so it's moot for me now.

<snip>

> > xorg.conf file, X refuses to start at all.  The server reports no
> > devices found so I guess the fglrx driver does not support the
> > Radeon IGP 340M, but isn't that driver from ATI?  I tried the
> > opengl-update ati command after putting fglrx in the Driver
> > parameters of xorg.conf and before starting xdm (gdm), but no help
> > there either.
>
> Are you sure the driver supports the card?  ATI are a little slow and
> getting drivers for newer cards into the package.  If you are sure
> that the driver supports your card, I would suggest filing a bug on
> bugs.gentoo.org and letting the maintainer take a look at it.

Actually, I'm pretty sure the fglrx driver does not support that 
card/chip.  This is based on what I see when I try using it in addition 
to a vague memory of having read that somewhere---maybe on forums.  But 
I'll look into it further and post a bug if the driver advertises 
support for that card/chip.

<snip>
> > Using the radeon driver, when I start X with XSESSION in make.conf
> > set to Gnome (logging into gdm as root), I get a dialog that says:
>
> <snip>
>

<snip>

>
> Why not just remove all of the XKB stuff from your configuration?  It
> doesn't look like you need it at all, and xorg-x11 will function fine
> without it.  As an example, here is my InputDevice section with my
> keyboard in it:
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>         Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>         Driver      "keyboard"
> EndSection

Well, I thought that maybe the pc105 option would be important since 
it's a laptop---does XOrg autoprobe for stuff like that?  I wasn't sure 
if the others were defaults or not.

I did try your suggestion, though, and oddly enough, Gnome still pops up 
the same dialog when I log in as root.  When I run the two commands 
(xprop and gconftool-2), they show the same information as before.  Is 
this info cached by gnome or something?  I would think that gnome would 
get the info from the X server which I must assume is getting it from 
xorg.conf.  I restarted the machine to make sure that some stale cache 
info wasn't lying around in some temp file or something, but it's still 
there.

Any thoughts on why this is happening and how to stop it?  It seems like 
gnome got its info from X once, stored it somewhere, and now is keeping 
it---in spite of the change to xorg.conf.  Is that what's happening?  
Seems like a bad idea, but maybe I'm missing something.

-Kevin

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Re: [gentoo-dev] XOrg/Gnome problems with Xkb Options (was gdm-2.6.0.3, XOrg/Gnome...)

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 12:29, Kevin wrote:
> Good idea.  I should've done that before writing here I guess.  Sorry.  
> From Bug 46794, it looks like someone already brought this up in April, 
> so I'll drop it.  Anyway, I already have the functionality that I want, 
> so it's moot for me now.

At least somebody reported it.

> Actually, I'm pretty sure the fglrx driver does not support that 
> card/chip.  This is based on what I see when I try using it in addition 
> to a vague memory of having read that somewhere---maybe on forums.  But 
> I'll look into it further and post a bug if the driver advertises 
> support for that card/chip.

It probably does not support the chip yet.  I tend to think that it
doesn't support it.

> Well, I thought that maybe the pc105 option would be important since 
> it's a laptop---does XOrg autoprobe for stuff like that?  I wasn't sure 
> if the others were defaults or not.
> 
> I did try your suggestion, though, and oddly enough, Gnome still pops up 
> the same dialog when I log in as root.  When I run the two commands 
> (xprop and gconftool-2), they show the same information as before.  Is 
> this info cached by gnome or something?  I would think that gnome would 
> get the info from the X server which I must assume is getting it from 
> xorg.conf.  I restarted the machine to make sure that some stale cache 
> info wasn't lying around in some temp file or something, but it's still 
> there.
> 
> Any thoughts on why this is happening and how to stop it?  It seems like 
> gnome got its info from X once, stored it somewhere, and now is keeping 
> it---in spite of the change to xorg.conf.  Is that what's happening?  
> Seems like a bad idea, but maybe I'm missing something.

Delete all of the .g* folders in /root, like .gconf, .gnome* and it will
reset everything to defaults next time you log into gnome.

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Release Engineering QA Manager/Games Developer
Gentoo Linux

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Re: [gentoo-dev] XOrg/Gnome problems with Xkb Options (was gdm-2.6.0.3, XOrg/Gnome...)

[Donnie Berkholz]

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On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 14:06, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 12:29, Kevin wrote:
> > Actually, I'm pretty sure the fglrx driver does not support that 
> > card/chip.  This is based on what I see when I try using it in addition 
> > to a vague memory of having read that somewhere---maybe on forums.  But 
> > I'll look into it further and post a bug if the driver advertises 
> > support for that card/chip.
> 
> It probably does not support the chip yet.  I tend to think that it
> doesn't support it.

The log file lists supported chips. Here's output from the latest
driver, 3.9.0:

(II) FireGL8700/8800: Driver for chipset: ATI RV250 Id (R9000),
    ATI RV250 Ie (R9000), ATI RV250 If (R9000), ATI RV250 Ig (R9000),
    ATI RV250 Ld (M9), ATI RV250 Le (M9), ATI RV250 Lf (M9),
    ATI RV250 Lg (M9), ATI RV280 5960 (R9200 PRO),
    ATI RV280 Ya (R9200LE), ATI RV250SE Yd (R9200SE),
    ATI RV250 5C61 (M9+), ATI RV250 5C63 (M9+), ATI R200 QH (R8500),
    ATI R200 QL (R8500), ATI R200 QM (R9100), ATI R200 QT (R8500),
    ATI R200 QU (R9100), ATI R200 BB (R8500), ATI RV350 AP (R9600),
    ATI RV350SE AQ (R9600SE), ATI RV350 AR (R9600 PRO),
    ATI RV350 NP (M10), ATI R300 AD (R9500), ATI R300 AE (R9500),
    ATI R300 AF (R9500), ATI R300 AG (Fire GL Z1/X1),
    ATI R300 ND (R9700 PRO), ATI R300 NE (R9700/R9500 PRO),
    ATI R300 NF (R9600 TX), ATI R300 NG (Fire GL X1),
    ATI R350SE AH (R9800SE), ATI R350 AK (Fire GL unknown),
    ATI RV350 AT (Fire GL T2), ATI RV350 AU (Fire GL T2),
    ATI RV350 AV (Fire GL T2), ATI RV350 AW (Fire GL T2),
    ATI R350 NH (R9800), ATI R350LE NI (R9800LE), ATI R350 NJ (R9800),
    ATI R350 NK (Fire GL X2), ATI RV350 NT (WS/M10)


Something like `/sbin/lspci | grep VGA` will likely list your card
similar to this:

0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP
[Radeon 9600]

It's pretty basic matching to check the list for the chip, RV350 AP in
this case.

Nothing like the IGP stuff sticks out on this list.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] ati-drivers and Radeon IGP 340M (was: XOrg/Gnome...)

[Kevin]

On Friday 25 June 2004 16:16, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
>
> The log file lists supported chips. Here's output from the latest
> driver, 3.9.0:
>
> (II) FireGL8700/8800: Driver for chipset: ATI RV250 Id (R9000),
>     ATI RV250 Ie (R9000), ATI RV250 If (R9000), ATI RV250 Ig (R9000),
>     ATI RV250 Ld (M9), ATI RV250 Le (M9), ATI RV250 Lf (M9),
>     ATI RV250 Lg (M9), ATI RV280 5960 (R9200 PRO),
>     ATI RV280 Ya (R9200LE), ATI RV250SE Yd (R9200SE),
>     ATI RV250 5C61 (M9+), ATI RV250 5C63 (M9+), ATI R200 QH (R8500),
>     ATI R200 QL (R8500), ATI R200 QM (R9100), ATI R200 QT (R8500),
>     ATI R200 QU (R9100), ATI R200 BB (R8500), ATI RV350 AP (R9600),
>     ATI RV350SE AQ (R9600SE), ATI RV350 AR (R9600 PRO),
>     ATI RV350 NP (M10), ATI R300 AD (R9500), ATI R300 AE (R9500),
>     ATI R300 AF (R9500), ATI R300 AG (Fire GL Z1/X1),
>     ATI R300 ND (R9700 PRO), ATI R300 NE (R9700/R9500 PRO),
>     ATI R300 NF (R9600 TX), ATI R300 NG (Fire GL X1),
>     ATI R350SE AH (R9800SE), ATI R350 AK (Fire GL unknown),
>     ATI RV350 AT (Fire GL T2), ATI RV350 AU (Fire GL T2),
>     ATI RV350 AV (Fire GL T2), ATI RV350 AW (Fire GL T2),
>     ATI R350 NH (R9800), ATI R350LE NI (R9800LE), ATI R350 NJ
> (R9800), ATI R350 NK (Fire GL X2), ATI RV350 NT (WS/M10)
>
>
> Something like `/sbin/lspci | grep VGA` will likely list your card

Bus  1, device   5, function  0:
VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 340M (rev 0).

> Nothing like the IGP stuff sticks out on this list.

Nope.

And the radeon manpage from the XOrg drivers does list the card/chip:

       RS200       Radeon IGP330(M)/IGP340(M) (2D only)

and I don't see RS200 in the list either.

Thanks for pointing this out.

-Kevin

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