[gentoo-dev] bugzilla suggestion: have stable and unstable in version drop down

[gentoo-dev] bugzilla suggestion: have stable and unstable in version drop down

[stan]

or masked and unmasked etc
So that bugs against ~x86, ~ppc64 etc can be differentiated more easily
from reports on packages that have been marked stable.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] bugzilla suggestion: have stable and unstable in version drop down

[Mike Frysinger]

On Monday 31 May 2004 03:24 pm, stan wrote:
> or masked and unmasked etc
> So that bugs against ~x86, ~ppc64 etc can be differentiated more easily
> from reports on packages that have been marked stable.

i dont think it'd really be used all that often
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] bugzilla suggestion: have stable and unstable in version drop down

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 15:56, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Monday 31 May 2004 03:24 pm, stan wrote:
> > or masked and unmasked etc
> > So that bugs against ~x86, ~ppc64 etc can be differentiated more easily
> > from reports on packages that have been marked stable.
> 
> i dont think it'd really be used all that often

I would have to agree.  Especially since most people don't use half the
drop downs as it is... so much so that I barely even notice what is in
them, since 95% of the time, it is simply the defaults and gives no
information.  I *will* look there before requesting that information
from the user, but as I said, it tends to always be the defaults.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] bugzilla suggestion: have stable and unstable in version drop down

[Drake Wyrm]

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At 2004-05-31T19:32:31-0400, Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 15:56, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Monday 31 May 2004 03:24 pm, stan wrote:
> > > or masked and unmasked etc
> > > So that bugs against ~x86, ~ppc64 etc can be differentiated more easily
> > > from reports on packages that have been marked stable.
> > 
> > i dont think it'd really be used all that often
> 
> I would have to agree.  Especially since most people don't use half the
> drop downs as it is... so much so that I barely even notice what is in
> them, since 95% of the time, it is simply the defaults and gives no
> information.  I *will* look there before requesting that information
> from the user, but as I said, it tends to always be the defaults.

Would it be the least bit helpful if non-devs who wish to help went
through incoming bug reports and made sure that all the relevant
information was there?

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Kusanagi: I understand the concept, but I've never seen it in action.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] bugzilla suggestion: have stable and unstable in version drop down

[Yi Qiang]

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On 18:04 Mon 31 May     , Drake Wyrm wrote:
> At 2004-05-31T19:32:31-0400, Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 15:56, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > On Monday 31 May 2004 03:24 pm, stan wrote:
> > > > or masked and unmasked etc
> > > > So that bugs against ~x86, ~ppc64 etc can be differentiated more easily
> > > > from reports on packages that have been marked stable.
> > > 
> > > i dont think it'd really be used all that often
> > 
> > I would have to agree.  Especially since most people don't use half the
> > drop downs as it is... so much so that I barely even notice what is in
> > them, since 95% of the time, it is simply the defaults and gives no
> > information.  I *will* look there before requesting that information
> > from the user, but as I said, it tends to always be the defaults.
> 
> Would it be the least bit helpful if non-devs who wish to help went
> through incoming bug reports and made sure that all the relevant
> information was there?
> 
> -- 
> Batou: Hey, Major... You ever hear of "human rights"?
> Kusanagi: I understand the concept, but I've never seen it in action.
>   --Ghost in the Shell

It would be an incredibly dull task, but if people would like to help in that area, it would be greatly appreciated.  Also, I don't buy the argument that because people don't use some of the options now (or they use it incorrectly) we should not implement helpful features.  I think this would help bring up queries against bugs in the stable tree vs bugs in the "testing" tree. (If this can be done now, please inform me).  I believe the major reason why people can not report bugs correctly is because of lack of documentation for it.  In that respect, I am planning to write a Bug Reporting HOWTO (gentoo specific) in similar fashion to liquidx's Common Ebuild Mistakes document.

Regards,
Yi

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Re: [gentoo-dev] bugzilla suggestion: have stable and unstable in version drop down

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 21:39, Yi Qiang wrote:
> It would be an incredibly dull task, but if people would like to help in that area, it would be greatly appreciated.  Also, I don't buy the argument that because people don't use some of the options now (or they use it incorrectly) we should not implement helpful features.  I think this would help bring up queries against bugs in the stable tree vs bugs in the "testing" tree. (If this can be done now, please inform me).  I believe the major reason why people can not report bugs correctly is because of lack of documentation for it.  In that respect, I am planning to write a Bug Reporting HOWTO (gentoo specific) in similar fashion to liquidx's Common Ebuild Mistakes document.

I honestly don't see the reason for it.  A bug is a bug.  They all need
to be resolved.  I would venture that we have nearly as many users using
testing KEYWORDS as we do using the stable KEYWORDS.  We really don't
need anything to differentiate between the two.  The architectures
listed are there so that someone can provide a bug that may be relevant
only to a particular hardware platform, not to a specific KEYWORD.

Now, with all that being said, I see no reason that we could not *add* a
way to determine whether or not the package is stable, as I can see
people using it (though I definitely wouldn't).  I just cannot agree
with changing either the version or the platform to meet this.  Though I
do tend to think that except for the case of livecd bugs, the version is
mostly worthless in Gentoo.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] bugzilla suggestion: have stable and unstable in version drop down

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Mon, 2004-05-31 at 21:04, Drake Wyrm wrote:
> Would it be the least bit helpful if non-devs who wish to help went
> through incoming bug reports and made sure that all the relevant
> information was there?

Sure, but I believe that you need special rights on bugzilla to do so. 
If the information was correct, I'm sure we would actually use it.  Like
I said, occasionally someone will put all the proper information, but
normally it is all default.

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