[gentoo-dev] Ebuild discussion channel

[gentoo-dev] Ebuild discussion channel

[Jason Stubbs]

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Hi all,

A person named shadows joined #gentoo-portage looking for help regarding 
ebuild creation - not the first. Anyway, (s)he suggested that there be a 
channel dedicated to ebuild discussion but allowing anybody to speak - ie. 
#gentoo-dev for users. I think its a great idea. Any seconders on this? If 
so, would the IRC people set up the channel with the proper permissions and 
stuff?

Regards,
Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuild discussion channel

[Jason Stubbs]

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I don't know if this was meant to be for me only, so I'm sending it out again.

On Friday 21 May 2004 22:26, Jochen Maes wrote:
> Quoting Jason Stubbs <jstubbs@gentoo.org>:
> > A person named shadows joined #gentoo-portage looking for help regarding
> > ebuild creation - not the first. Anyway, (s)he suggested that there be a
> > channel dedicated to ebuild discussion but allowing anybody to speak -
> > ie. #gentoo-dev for users. I think its a great idea. Any seconders on
> > this? If so, would the IRC people set up the channel with the proper
> > permissions and stuff?
>
> I'm all for it, i'm sure i'll be there a lot for questions...
>
> but shouldn't we call it gentoo-ebuilding or something? :-)

Yeah. I meant that the point of the new channel would be for development 
discussion rather than user support. I didn't mean that #gentoo-dev should be 
opened up to users or that #gentoo-portage's purpose should be changed. 
Perhaps #gentoo was such a channel in the past, but that was the past.

Thinking about it, such a channel would probably help recruitment somewhat 
too. I became a developer after another was kind enough to say "learn this, 
this and this". It was only a stroke of luck/fate/whatever that allowed the 
initial contact. #gentoo to #gentoo-dev is worlds apart. #gentoo-ebuilding 
(or whatever) would be a good bridge between them for those that want to 
traverse it.

Regards,
Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuild discussion channel

[Jochen Maes]

Quoting Jason Stubbs <jstubbs@gentoo.org>:

> I don't know if this was meant to be for me only, so I'm sending it out
> again.

sorry, i'm still not used to the reply to all button :p

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuild discussion channel

[Marius Mauch]

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On 05/21/04  Jason Stubbs wrote:

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> Hi all,
> 
> A person named shadows joined #gentoo-portage looking for help
> regarding ebuild creation - not the first. Anyway, (s)he suggested
> that there be a channel dedicated to ebuild discussion but allowing
> anybody to speak - ie. #gentoo-dev for users. I think its a great
> idea. Any seconders on this? If so, would the IRC people set up the
> channel with the proper permissions and stuff?

Don't we already have that with #gentoo-bugs (ok, the name is not
exactly describing in that case) ?

Marius

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuild discussion channel

[Jason Stubbs]

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On Friday 21 May 2004 23:52, Marius Mauch wrote:
> On 05/21/04  Jason Stubbs wrote:
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > A person named shadows joined #gentoo-portage looking for help
> > regarding ebuild creation - not the first. Anyway, (s)he suggested
> > that there be a channel dedicated to ebuild discussion but allowing
> > anybody to speak - ie. #gentoo-dev for users. I think its a great
> > idea. Any seconders on this? If so, would the IRC people set up the
> > channel with the proper permissions and stuff?
>
> Don't we already have that with #gentoo-bugs (ok, the name is not
> exactly describing in that case) ?

I think you are right. #gentoo-bugs would be perfect for this. However, I 
don't find it in the list below, which is taken from www.g.o.

#gentoo           General Discussion
#gentoo-dev       Development Only Discussion
#gentoo-user      Low-bandwidth chat
#gentoo-server    Server related chat
#gentoo-laptop    Laptop related chat
#gentoo-embedded  Embedded Gentoo Linux
#gentoo-hardened  Hardened Gentoo Linux
#gentoo-java      Java related chat
#gentoo-games     Game Discussions/Support
#gentoo-cluster   Gentoo Linux/Clustering

When i first came to IRC, I joined #gentoo. I had a look at #gentoo-user, but 
it's not in use. It may as well be dropped as "low-bandwidth" is too generous 
a description. I did sit in #gentoo-bugs for a little while (don't know how I 
found out about it) but it seemed to be just a place for people to listen out 
for bug-wranglers.

Anyway.. if #gentoo-bugs was used as a user development channel, it would give 
the initiative-endowed users a chance to see the bulk of a 
distribution's/developer's workload. Perhaps #gentoo-bugs should just be 
added to the above list. Any other people support this?

Regards,
Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuild discussion channel

[Bryan Østergaard]

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jBridging #gentoo and #gentoo-dev is one of the things I would really
like #gentoo-bugs to do. I don't necessarily think this is happening
right now but I'm pointing users to -bugs whenever I get the chance - of
cause at the moment BugDays are the primary factor driving this. 

Regards,
Bryan Østergaard

On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 16:06, Jason Stubbs wrote:
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> I don't know if this was meant to be for me only, so I'm sending it out again.
> 
> On Friday 21 May 2004 22:26, Jochen Maes wrote:
> > Quoting Jason Stubbs <jstubbs@gentoo.org>:
> > > A person named shadows joined #gentoo-portage looking for help regarding
> > > ebuild creation - not the first. Anyway, (s)he suggested that there be a
> > > channel dedicated to ebuild discussion but allowing anybody to speak -
> > > ie. #gentoo-dev for users. I think its a great idea. Any seconders on
> > > this? If so, would the IRC people set up the channel with the proper
> > > permissions and stuff?
> >
> > I'm all for it, i'm sure i'll be there a lot for questions...
> >
> > but shouldn't we call it gentoo-ebuilding or something? :-)
> 
> Yeah. I meant that the point of the new channel would be for development 
> discussion rather than user support. I didn't mean that #gentoo-dev should be 
> opened up to users or that #gentoo-portage's purpose should be changed. 
> Perhaps #gentoo was such a channel in the past, but that was the past.
> 
> Thinking about it, such a channel would probably help recruitment somewhat 
> too. I became a developer after another was kind enough to say "learn this, 
> this and this". It was only a stroke of luck/fate/whatever that allowed the 
> initial contact. #gentoo to #gentoo-dev is worlds apart. #gentoo-ebuilding 
> (or whatever) would be a good bridge between them for those that want to 
> traverse it.
> 
> Regards,
> Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuild discussion channel

[Jason Stubbs]

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On Saturday 22 May 2004 02:13, Bryan Østergaard wrote:
> jBridging #gentoo and #gentoo-dev is one of the things I would really
> like #gentoo-bugs to do. I don't necessarily think this is happening
> right now but I'm pointing users to -bugs whenever I get the chance - of
> cause at the moment BugDays are the primary factor driving this.

Ahh, but that's only 12 times a year. Realisticly, we need much more that 
that. Thanks for the effort, but nothing else to say...

Regards,
Jason Stubbs
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