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From: Luke-Jr <luke7jr@yahoo.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: Jay Maynard <jmaynard@conmicro.cx>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] No XFree86 w/ new license
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 16:13:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200402251613.19633.luke7jr@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040225134804.GC16447@thebrain.conmicro.cx>

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On Wednesday 25 February 2004 01:48 pm, Jay Maynard wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 01:40:33PM +0000, Luke-Jr wrote:
> > On Wednesday 25 February 2004 01:35 pm, Jay Maynard wrote:
> > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 02:12:10PM +0100, John Nilsson wrote:
> > > > Because of this decision, the GNU system is not the same as the
> > > > collection of all GNU software. The GNU system includes programs that
> > > > are not GNU software, programs that were developed by other people
> > > > and projects for their own purposes, but which we can use because
> > > > they are free software." - Richard Stallman
> > > > (http://www.gnu.org/gnu/thegnuproject.html)
> > > This is as morally reprehensible as SCO's claim that anything any of
> > > their licensees wrote for their Unix distributions is part of Unix.
> > You realize that the only difference between that description and what
> > distros do is that GNU wrote more of the core OS? Are you going to apply
> > the same statement to Gentoo, RedHat, and all the other distros who have
> > written even *less* of their OS's software?
> Stallman's claiming credit for all of Linux, anywhere it appears,
In every case except BusyBox-based and the kernel itself, it *is* logicly a 
GNU/Linux-based operating system. The majority of the tools for most 
Linux-based systems are written by GNU, so calling them GNU/Linux (if you 
mention the internals at all) has nothing wrong with it.
In this case, he wasn't even talking about Linux in any form. He was talking 
about the GNU system which, by it's normal definition, is mostly the GNU 
tools and GNU HURD.
> just as SCO is climing credot for all of AIX, HP-UX, Solaris, and every
> other proprietary Unix. None of the distributors you cite are doing that.
By that very statement, RMS is acknowledging that other developers write some 
of the free software used in the GNU system. How is that claiming credit for 
it?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-02-28  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-17  3:17 [gentoo-dev] No XFree86 w/ new license Donnie Berkholz
2004-02-17  3:37 ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-02-17  4:25 ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-02-18 14:50   ` CJ Kucera
2004-02-18 14:56     ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-02-18 15:13       ` CJ Kucera
2004-02-18 16:50         ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-02-18 17:50           ` CJ Kucera
2004-02-18 18:57             ` [gentoo-dev] " James H. Cloos Jr.
2004-02-18 19:19               ` CJ Kucera
2004-02-18 19:07             ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2004-02-18 19:09             ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-02-18 19:18               ` CJ Kucera
2004-02-18 20:16                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-02-18 20:56                   ` Andrew Cowie
2004-02-18 22:16                     ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-02-19  5:07                       ` CJ Kucera
2004-02-19  2:57                     ` Clay Culver
2004-02-17  7:22 ` Spider
2004-02-17  8:19   ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-02-19 20:39 ` Jason Rhinelander
2004-02-19 20:44   ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-02-20 14:36     ` Daniel Armyr
2004-02-20 15:10       ` Nathaniel McCallum
2004-02-20 11:04   ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-02-20 11:47     ` Peter Robinson
2004-02-20 13:16       ` Eldad Zack
2004-02-19 20:43 ` Svyatogor
2004-02-19 20:40   ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-02-19 22:10     ` Stewart Honsberger
2004-02-19 22:18       ` Tal Peer
2004-02-19 22:43         ` Luke-Jr
2004-02-20  4:59           ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-02-20  5:24             ` Luke-Jr
2004-02-20  5:37               ` Mike Frysinger
2004-02-19 22:49       ` Paul Smith
2004-02-19 22:56       ` George Shapovalov
2004-02-22 20:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Drake Wyrm
2004-02-22 21:33   ` Jon Portnoy
2004-02-22 21:50     ` Jay Maynard
2004-02-22 22:29       ` Jon Portnoy
2004-02-23  3:20       ` Luke-Jr
2004-02-23  3:33         ` Jay Maynard
2004-02-23  3:47           ` Luke-Jr
2004-02-23  3:12     ` Luke-Jr
2004-02-22 21:58   ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-02-22 22:09     ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-02-25  6:32 ` [gentoo-dev] No " Jason Stubbs
2004-02-25 10:54   ` Brian Jackson
2004-02-25 12:27     ` Jason Stubbs
2004-02-25 13:12       ` John Nilsson
2004-02-25 13:35         ` Jay Maynard
2004-02-25 13:40           ` Luke-Jr
2004-02-25 13:48             ` Jay Maynard
2004-02-25 14:22               ` Paul Smith
2004-02-25 16:13               ` Luke-Jr [this message]
2004-02-27 18:17               ` Jon Portnoy
2004-02-27 18:33                 ` Jay Maynard
2004-02-27 18:44                   ` Jon Portnoy
2004-02-27 19:22                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-02-27 20:21                     ` Jay Maynard
2004-02-27 20:43                 ` Michael Cummings
2004-02-25 13:43           ` Paul Smith
2004-02-25 14:44           ` John Robinson
2004-02-26 13:28     ` Svyatogor
2004-02-26 13:21       ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-02-26 13:43         ` Svyatogor
2004-02-26 15:36           ` Matthew Kennedy
2004-02-26 15:57             ` Stewart
2004-02-26 16:05               ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-02-27  3:08               ` Matthew Kennedy
2004-02-27  7:40                 ` Brad Laue
2004-02-27  7:51                   ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-02-27  9:10                   ` Phil Richards
2004-02-27  9:40                     ` John Nilsson
2004-02-27  9:52                       ` Phil Richards
2004-02-27 10:25                         ` John Nilsson
2004-02-27 10:56                           ` Tom Wesley
2004-02-27 12:39                             ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-02-27 11:32                           ` Svyatogor
2004-02-27 12:15                           ` Jay Maynard
2004-02-27 12:35                           ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-02-27 13:47                             ` John Nilsson
2004-02-27 12:29                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-02-27 13:57                         ` John Nilsson
2004-02-27 12:21                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-02-26 13:24       ` Patrick Kursawe
2004-02-26 13:29       ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-02-26 13:42       ` Toby Dickenson
2004-02-26 13:52         ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-02-26 16:14           ` Donnie Berkholz

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