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From: Robert Cole <robert.cole@support4linux.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] creating ebuilds
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 16:24:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200401061624.53192.robert.cole@support4linux.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040106220955.297c7663.spider@gentoo.org>

On Tue January 06 2004 1:09 pm, Spider wrote:
> 3b) QC,  by developer of the strictest sense. A lot of people failto
> grasp even the most basic concepts of  ebuild programming and / or the
> case of boolean logic. ( if foo then bar ; then baz.....  or was that or
> baz?  or ... or.... if foo then bar... then we ignore the case of not
> foo?  )
>
> > ** Assuming everything is perfect
> > a. Ebuild works fine, no patches need to be applied/software is now
> > known stable.
>
> No. its not, we have yet no conclusion as to wether the build is
> complete or not. Does it build all documentation? are the files really
> with that license?   are the dependencies correct according to
> configure.*  or did it just happen to work on a fully installed system?
>
> Is all functionality accounted for in the dependencies, or will it build
> without, say X, but with reduced functionality?  None of this is checked
> for, and almost none of them are accountable by automagic.

I guess I think a little differently in that my response to the above is: You 
mean ebuild creators don't already do this? 

I don't say that to be funny, honest. I just can't seeing letting ANYONE even 
see an ebuild I create without having done all those checks in the first 
place! Then after that I would give it to my sponsor to give a brutal 
evaluation of it and then and only then after further changes and testing 
would I ask it to be included in the tree.

I don't know maybe I'm wierd or something it just comes from my early 
programming instructors in the mid 80s, document, document, document, test, 
test, test and then test some more.

> Conclusion : please, write a GLEP. i want to see this discussed more,
> but in a whole new thread.

Agree this thread is dead.

I feel I got a much better understanding of the whole gentoo dev process and I 
feel it was pretty good and most of it was useful back and forth. Overall a 
decent thread I think. Lets all just try to relax now. :) Let's go back to 
playing nice in the sandbox :)

BTW, Happy new year! 

Robert

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-07  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-06  7:05 [gentoo-dev] creating ebuilds Robert Cole
2004-01-06  7:15 ` Jon Portnoy
2004-01-06  7:36   ` Allen Parker
2004-01-06  7:39   ` Robert Cole
2004-01-06  7:55     ` Jon Portnoy
2004-01-06  8:39       ` Robert Cole
2004-01-06  9:54         ` Kurt Lieber
2004-01-06 13:08           ` Caleb Tennis
2004-01-06 14:13             ` Allen Parker
     [not found]             ` <E1Adry1-0003ZV-8m@smtp.gentoo.org>
2004-01-06 21:09               ` Spider
2004-01-07  0:24                 ` Robert Cole [this message]
2004-01-07 13:36                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-01-06 15:18           ` Robert Cole
2004-01-06 16:04             ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-01-06 16:31               ` Robert Cole
2004-01-06 16:45                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-01-06 17:17                   ` Robert Cole
2004-01-06 19:17                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-01-06 19:43                   ` Robert Cole
2004-01-06 20:07                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-01-08  7:12                       ` John Nilsson
2004-01-08  9:56                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-01-08 14:36                           ` John Nilsson
2004-01-08 20:53                           ` Nicholas Hockey
2004-01-10 11:39                     ` foser
2004-01-06 12:09         ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-01-06 15:38           ` Robert Cole
2004-01-06 19:29             ` Marius Mauch
2004-01-06 12:44         ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-01-06 15:45           ` Robert Cole
2004-01-06 20:39             ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-01-06 21:11               ` [gentoo-dev] " Eamon Caddigan
2004-01-06 21:37                 ` Caleb Tennis
     [not found]   ` <E1Adllq-0001dV-26@smtp.gentoo.org>
2004-01-06  7:46     ` [gentoo-dev] " Jon Portnoy
     [not found]   ` <E1AdlmM-0001xM-00@deer.gmane.org>
2004-01-07  6:18     ` [gentoo-dev] " Jeff Stuart
2004-01-07 13:20       ` Caleb Tennis
2004-01-06 18:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " George Shapovalov
2004-01-06 19:06   ` George Shapovalov
2004-01-06 19:45   ` Marius Mauch
2004-01-06 20:44   ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-01-10 11:13   ` foser
2004-01-10 12:16     ` Jason Stubbs
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-06  8:17 Robert Cole
2004-01-06 12:57 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-01-06 15:37 ` Seemant Kulleen
2004-01-06 18:14   ` Robert Cole
2004-01-06 20:49   ` Jan Schubert
     [not found] <E1Adlms-0007w8-Uk@smtp.gentoo.org>
2004-01-06 12:33 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-01-06 17:26   ` Robert Cole
2004-01-06 17:39     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-01-06 18:01       ` Robert Cole
2004-01-06 19:26         ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-01-06 19:53           ` Peter Ruskin
2004-01-06 20:12             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-01-06 20:21             ` Marius Mauch
2004-01-06 20:37             ` Jan Schubert
2004-01-06 21:14             ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-01-06 21:36             ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-01-06 19:20     ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-01-06 17:56   ` Eldad Zack
2004-01-06 18:02     ` Eldad Zack
2004-01-06 18:33       ` Robert Cole
2004-01-06 19:31         ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-01-06 20:38       ` Jan Schubert
2004-01-06 20:54       ` Spider
     [not found] <FILESERVERAmEaJswFC00000011@FILESERVER.aurora.local>
2004-01-06 14:57 ` Caleb Tennis

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