From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25206 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2004 18:01:53 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (128.193.0.39) by eagle.gentoo.oregonstate.edu with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 6 Jan 2004 18:01:53 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([128.193.0.34] helo=eagle.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AdvWa-0006IC-HJ for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 18:01:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 26849 invoked by uid 50004); 6 Jan 2004 18:01:52 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 16643 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2004 18:01:52 +0000 From: Robert Cole To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:01:31 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.94 References: <200401060926.50853.robert.cole@support4linux.com> <20040106173919.3ff80bb6@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <20040106173919.3ff80bb6@snowdrop.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200401061001.31226.robert.cole@support4linux.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] creating ebuilds X-Archives-Salt: e5dc6e63-2515-4af2-a60f-fec7e0537f9a X-Archives-Hash: e70cc7e139456afb3c771e4b68f3c2b4 On Tue January 06 2004 9:39 am, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:26:50 -0800 Robert Cole > > wrote: > | > I'm sorry for that. It however can be a sign that the tree is not > | > ready for those ebuilds, or that they are in very low demand. > | > | If someone has gone their entire life using a rock to hammer nails and > | has never heard of a hammer before and thus doesn't have the demand > | for it does that mean that if they are told about the hammer they > | won't use it or have a demand for always having it? > | > | Sometimes you create demand where one doesn't currently exist by > | simply telling people about the hammer. > > *bzzzzt*, silly analogy detected. Putting something in portage is not > telling people about it. Really? I find new software all the time in the portage tree I never even knew about and go to the referenced webpage to check it out. Now with the new online packages area that has the days ebuilds its even easier to see new stuff. I doubt I'm the only one but maybe I am. > | If there is a way to make cvs ownership based that would be the > | easiest administration wise. As in the ebuild(s) I submit I have > | access to and nothing else. > > Uh, that's still enough to screw up portage completely. One suitably > broken ebuild can still cause lots and lots of errors all over the > place. Then portage is more fragile than it should be. If I make an ebuild for a game and submit it and it causes corruption then there is a deeper problem with the portage tree than there should be. Submitting a new app should in no way effect the integrity of the portage tree. If what you say is true portage is badly broken. From my view outside of the dev circle and cvs area portage seems fine and not broken. To me postage is the killer app of the linux world. Damn thing has me hooked to the point I can't stand other distros. :) > I still don't see what's wrong with having a seperate repositry (eg > "breakmygentoo") for things that don't make it into the "official" tree. Or maybe this is the staging area that I've been pushing for. All that needs to be done is an easy and painless way for a person with cvs access to the gentoo tree to approve something in the breakmygentoo tree and move it over to the gentoo tree if there isn't already. Robert -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list