From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18637 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2003 18:36:46 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (128.193.0.39) by eagle.gentoo.oregonstate.edu with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Dec 2003 18:36:46 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([128.193.0.34] helo=eagle.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Ab2Fy-0000nk-HK for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:36:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 5347 invoked by uid 50004); 29 Dec 2003 18:22:08 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 13737 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2003 18:22:08 +0000 From: Bart Lauwers To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:22:03 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <002f01c3cdf7$e147c860$0801a8c0@svrmarty.gnome.at> <20031229155409.0c9d8970.spider@gentoo.org> <1072717943.14519.21.camel@rivendell> In-Reply-To: <1072717943.14519.21.camel@rivendell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200312291922.03305.blauwers@gentoo.org> X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030212) (tsunami.skynet.be) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Making 2 local use flags to global X-Archives-Salt: 1832369a-8c26-4795-86b1-fe88720faf5e X-Archives-Hash: b0dc14c642b5be7a2e2077a8043be2cd In my opinion the use of the use flag flac (or encoder or whatever) then should cause an RDEPEND for flac. I have to agree with Spider and I disagree that this an education issue. The point of portage is to manage what gets installed on a system so it should figure out that flac is a run dependency to encoding. Bart On Monday 29 December 2003 18:12, foser wrote: > On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 15:54, Spider wrote: > > its a possible runtime dep, and very necessary if you wish to use > > sound-juicer to actually encode sound into flac, which would be the > > forseeable idea here. > > > > i think our RDEPEND is the best fitting clause right now, but that might > > just be another limitation we hit in portage as-is :) > > Nah, i think it is outside the scope of what portage is supposed to > handle. > > > Same goes for rhythmbox i think. Having a user look around for the > > rather implausble name "gst-plugins-flac" to make it play the sound is > > sorta strange. > > > > (No, I don't expect anyone to know that gst-plugins-flac is the right > > thing to install to get rhythmbox to play flac, and sound-juicer to > > encode to flac ..) > > Education would be needed, that is no reason to add it (this is still a > TODO since the introduction of separate gst plug-ins). The fact is you > don't need the plug-in to build or use both applications without > problems, you should compare it to xmms plug-ins really. > > In these specific cases i can see why a use flagged dep would be > arguable a reasonable addition, but essentially the applications do not > have to limit their in or output plug-ins. Where do you stop adding new > unnecessary use flags for non-essential plug-ins ? I'd say stop right > now. > > - foser > > > > -- > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list