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From: "Brett I. Holcomb" <brettholcomb@charter.net>
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo internal structure, Will it ever end?
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:53:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200311231845.hANIj4Mu001336@mxsf14.cluster1.charter.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20031123101838.02002dc7.thomas@zimres.net

The thread started talking very specific - do we dump the non-OSI and tell
those who want that to find another distro or windows or do we maintain the
philosophy of Gentoo where either side can make an install that suits their
needs/philosophy.

This started with someone saying "We need to go cater to those who want
only OSI" and from there many said "we need to go only OSI and remove non
OSI stuff from portage" and those who wanted commericial/non-free could
hope a third party provided that or go to another distro.  This provoked
replies stating that Gentoo's philosophy was choice and being able to do a
job and OSI only took away that choice and crippled the ability to do the
job. Eventually the thread morphed into it's current form of consideration
 of how to handle licensing in portage.

The thread started talking very specific - do we dump the non-OSI and tell
those who want that to find another distro or windows or do we maintain the
 philosophy of Gentoo where either side can make an install that suits their
 needs/philosophy.

> On Sunday 23 November 2003 13:18, you wrote:
> > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:43:36 -0500
> >
> > "Brett I. Holcomb" <brettholcomb@charter.net> wrote:
> > > That's what most of the responces have pointed out - Gentoo's currrent
> > >
> > > philosophy is to give us all choice to run what we need or desire.
> > > Unfortunately some people felt we should not have that choice and
> > > wanted to dump any package that did not meet their approval as free,
> > > open, whatever out of portage and anyone who wants those packages had
> > > to go find them himself.  Not real tolerant.  Gentoo's setup is fine
> > > for all and tolerates each side - why change it?
> >
> > Hum, I didn't catch that from this thread. My impression was the desire
> > to know more implicitly what licences the software used was _using_.
> > OTOH, there still isn't patch to portage waiting in the wings, so like
> > most flamewars^w debates, we arn't talking about spacifics yet (just pie
> > in the sky.) :)

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2003-11-23 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-18 19:01 [gentoo-dev] Gentoo internal structure Sergey V. Spiridonov
2003-11-19 10:14 ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-11-20 18:02   ` [gentoo-dev] " Sergey V. Spiridonov
2003-11-21  1:50   ` [gentoo-dev] " Jason Stubbs
2003-11-21  2:34     ` Brett I. Holcomb
2003-11-21  2:53       ` Jason Stubbs
2003-11-21  3:13       ` Aron Griffis
2003-11-21 10:07         ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-11-21 10:33           ` donnie berkholz
2003-11-21 10:54             ` Erik Swanson
2003-11-21 12:34               ` William Kenworthy
2003-11-21 12:53                 ` Jason Stubbs
2003-11-21 15:19                 ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-11-21 17:32               ` Jon Portnoy
2003-11-21 18:07                 ` Erik Swanson
2003-11-21 20:15                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-11-21 21:07                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-22  7:41                       ` Mike Frysinger
2003-11-22 21:06                         ` Aron Griffis
2003-11-23 18:04                         ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-23 18:30                           ` Luke-Jr
2003-11-23 21:55                             ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2003-11-23 22:43                               ` Luke-Jr
2003-11-23 23:05                                 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2003-11-24 16:18                                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-24 16:15                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-24  1:06                             ` Mike Frysinger
2003-11-24  1:06                             ` Mike Frysinger
2003-11-24 16:13                             ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-26 12:17                   ` Christian Birchinger
2003-11-26 17:18                     ` Bob Miller
2003-11-26 18:00                       ` Dewet Diener
2003-11-26 22:09                       ` Christian Birchinger
2003-11-26 22:58                       ` Jason Rhinelander
2003-11-22  6:47                 ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-11-22  7:39                   ` Jon Portnoy
2003-11-21 19:25               ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-26 12:06           ` Christian Birchinger
2003-11-26 12:30             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2003-11-21  3:22       ` gentoo.org
2003-11-21 15:16     ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-11-21 15:27       ` Don Seiler
2003-11-21 17:45       ` Jon Portnoy
2003-11-21 18:35       ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-11-22  7:06         ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-11-22  7:32           ` Jon Portnoy
2003-11-22  7:43             ` Mike Frysinger
2003-11-22  8:34               ` Caleb Tennis
2003-11-22 16:56               ` Brett I. Holcomb
2003-11-22  9:28             ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-11-22 16:06             ` Peter Ruskin
2003-11-22 16:57             ` Paul Varner
2003-11-22 20:31             ` Donnie Berkholz
2003-11-24  6:37             ` Andrew Cowie
2003-11-25 13:31               ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-24 16:33             ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-11-25  6:42               ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-11-22  7:33           ` Jon Portnoy
2003-11-24 16:36             ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-11-22 10:28           ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-11-22 14:42             ` Heiko Vogel
2003-11-22 14:57               ` Jason Stubbs
2003-11-22 22:52               ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo internal structure, Will it ever end? William McArthur
2003-11-22 23:43                 ` Brett I. Holcomb
2003-11-23  0:30                   ` Jason Stubbs
2003-11-23 18:08             ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo internal structure Chris Gianelloni
2003-11-23 19:55               ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2003-11-22 14:45           ` Lisa Seelye
2003-11-26 12:52           ` Christian Birchinger
     [not found] ` <20031123101838.02002dc7.thomas@zimres.net>
2003-11-23 18:53   ` Brett I. Holcomb [this message]

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