From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21097 invoked by uid 1002); 18 Nov 2003 16:13:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 8974 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2003 16:13:02 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:10:47 -0700 From: Jason Mobarak To: Gentoo-Dev List Message-ID: <20031118161047.GA30056@unm.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Gentoo-Dev List References: <1068974673.361.2.camel@localhost> <1069111122.1807.15.camel@rattus.localdomain> <20031118011111.40f0441e.pYrania@gentoo.org> <200311180026.19577.Peter.Ruskin@dsl.pipex.com> <20031118011305.GA23900@unm.edu> <1069119114.6811.39.camel@cbbcsc204a.murdoch.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1069119114.6811.39.camel@cbbcsc204a.murdoch.edu.au> X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-Operating-System: Gentoo GNU/Linux X-GPG-Fingerprint: 215D 0E9C 0B69 7BA0 B6D3 C1D6 052C 5B49 2EA8 A676 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] *-config tool renaming? X-Archives-Salt: 74eaaada-d2ea-4562-8d0b-b4e225a76a3b X-Archives-Hash: 22ece52f9e31d186e3face7de67adcde Yeah... with this rational the g- naming scheme sounds like a good idea. I've been in several situations where I'm definitely not wanting to try and remember which tool could save my butt, it'd be nice to type g- and get a listing of all the Gentoo specific tools offered. Perhaps combined with update-* and config-* this could be really useful. -- Jason Mobarak On 09:31 Tue 18 Nov , Bill Kenworthy wrote: > The reason for using "g-" was so typing "g-" will get ALL gentoo > utilities. Otherwise the advantage of being consistent and hierarchal > is largely lost (you do need a (hopefully) short "top of tree" > identifier for the hierarchy). You will also need to allow for other > configuration tools such as g-cpan.pl which is a gentoo utility, but is > really perl module installer similar to emerge. > > Another example is the gentoolkit utilities like revdep-rebuild - > there's lots of messages telling people that this tool is available, but > no other way to tell its there if you are in the middle of a disaster > and trying to figure out what to do. > > Lastly, when I was using mandrake, they were prefixing all their > utilities with "drak" which made finding the tools *SO* easy. This is > not about copying what they do, but being smarter about what we do. > > BillK > > On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 09:13, Jason Mobarak wrote: > > Hi -- > > > > I vote config-* and update-* -- the other names seem a little convoluted if the > > intent is to make a clear and concise tool naming scheme. > > > > -- Jason A Mobarak (aka Aether on Freenode) > > > > On 00:26 Tue 18 Nov , Peter Ruskin wrote: > > > On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 00:11, Markus Nigbur wrote: > > > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:18:42 +0800 > > > > > > > > William Kenworthy wrote: > > > > > I dont see a problem with branding in this case (other than > > > > > gentoo-* sounding a bit ... odd!) > > > > > > > > > > how many other tools such as g-cpan.pl exist that few know about: > > > > > is there a consolidated list of these tools and what they do? If > > > > > not, some kind of consistent, hierarchal naming scheme will be a > > > > > godsend! > > > > > > > > > > So I am suggesting > > > > > g-update-etc, g-update-opengl > > > > > g-install-cpan, g-install-cran > > > > > g-config-distcc, g-config-java > > > > > and so on > > > > > > > > > > BillK > > > > > > > > Well, the whole idea is good, but those names are really considerable > > > > stupid-looking :( > > > > But apparently i can't think of anything better. > > > > > > > > -- Markus > > > > > > I think the first idea was the best: config-* > > > > > > Peter > > > -- > > > ====================================================================== > > > Portage 2.0.49-r15 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r3, > > > 2.4.23_pre8-gss) > > > i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ > > > ====================================================================== > > > > > > > > > -- > > > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > -- > > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list > -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list