From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5026 invoked by uid 1002); 22 Oct 2003 18:07:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 25016 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2003 18:07:25 -0000 From: "C. Brewer" To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:07:26 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <4866.146.176.63.67.1066740482.squirrel@mail.codewordt.co.uk> <200310212044.30947.cbrewer@stealthaccess.net> <20031022124020.0154ffc6.spider@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20031022124020.0154ffc6.spider@gentoo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_jdsl/QE2Wa7G4XY"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200310221107.31772.cbrewer@stealthaccess.net> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] USE Linux 2.6.x X-Archives-Salt: 57cf744d-79a8-415a-95c2-81123d9988f9 X-Archives-Hash: 4404f1099aa1269f10d5ab515dfe2f75 --Boundary-02=_jdsl/QE2Wa7G4XY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 22 October 2003 3:40, Spider wrote: > Because, they are two of the problematic builds that are affected by > your suggested way of fixing, or breaking, things. This was not > personally directed at you, but taken out as examples of packages that > can't just depend on "What am I running right now" Because of how they > work. Point taken. But even if I had this magical fix for the situation, I don't= =20 have need for those packages and my solution would be handicapped thusly. > Curently my counterproposal is to actually have the usr/src/linux > symlink directed at the target kernel, and if that link isn't found, > assume that we want the running kernel instead, and repoint it at > lib/modules/`uname -r`/build > > Just because usr/src/linux is a symlink in our case, why is that worse > than following and relying on the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build > symlink? The name? if that's the case, we could well make the > symlink named "Target" and instead just confuse people more. Okay, but your counterproposal would be flawed as well, because as you poin= ted=20 out, you don't always keep your sources, and without those /usr/src/linux=20 will point to nothing, as well as the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build link. S= o=20 what happens when those both fail? Do we fake a dir in /usr/src, so at leat= s=20 one link works? > Yes, I'm of the old school , I -assume- that people who suggest a way > of doing things, also have tried it themselves, or are capable of > implementing it. When you don't have that situation, you get "Designed > by Commite" solutions that may sound good, but are in fact unworkable. But in order to try this myself (if I was capable), I would need to atleast= =20 account for quite a few pieces of equipment that I don't currently own in=20 order to support all posible scenarios, of which I couldn't afford to do, n= or=20 find storage for. In order to cover the most possible cases, we need "Desig= n=20 by Committe" with the people using this equipment. > The personal form "i" which I used througout the whole email suggests > that in this case it is my personal opinion. To assume that it is that > of a team, whom I've been sent forth to represent, is plain silly. Regardless of this being your personal opinion, you're still a dev, and whe= n=20 devs say "worksforme" it tends to be the end of development and/or=20 discussion, personal opinion or not. I don't assume the rest of the dev tea= m=20 agrees with you or otherwise. In fact, I'm gonna say most of them probably= =20 have given little thought to it one way or the other. > And, in my not overly humble opinion, You have just as much to say as > anyone else. Its not about your email address. I've found that I usually have more to say than anyone else, its the gettin= g=20 people to relate part I have trouble with:) =2D-=20 Chuck Brewer Registered Linux User #284015 Get my gpg public key at pgp.mit.edu!! Encrypted e-mail preferred. --Boundary-02=_jdsl/QE2Wa7G4XY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/lsdjGmszwkJY878RAskXAJ4w18bYzHCc2+GZuv24oXn58vOOgQCfaTpO /OF2Ix+sGM6Z5ZXbbId//E8= =5mwP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_jdsl/QE2Wa7G4XY--