From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21702 invoked by uid 1002); 22 Oct 2003 03:47:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 24412 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2003 03:47:33 -0000 From: "C. Brewer" To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:44:23 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <4866.146.176.63.67.1066740482.squirrel@mail.codewordt.co.uk> <200310211044.48299.cbrewer@stealthaccess.net> <20031022002531.1bfc861b.spider@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20031022002531.1bfc861b.spider@gentoo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_e0fl/8dS9eVUJlW"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200310212044.30947.cbrewer@stealthaccess.net> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] USE Linux 2.6.x X-Archives-Salt: ec4ca4d9-9042-49c6-bfc7-bd1ad5f587da X-Archives-Hash: 24eef3ec47411f16e6c8f99fdaa19f00 --Boundary-02=_e0fl/8dS9eVUJlW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 21 October 2003 3:25, Spider wrote: > begin quote > Then fix pcmcia-cs and alsa-driver before you suggest anything. as it > is, my machine won't boot properly without pcmcia-cs -and- alsa, as they > IRQ conflict unless loaded in a certain order. Excuse me? "I" should fix these? > They are both dependant on the target module, and theres no way in a > gnomes purple hell you are going to get me into a state where I can > reboot first, and then rebuild the modules, only to reboot again so I > have a working boot session. uh-oh- NO. Under those conditions likely not..... > And no, you won't get me to emerge it with SLOT=3D"purple-gnomes-2.4.44" > either, Just because I sat down and got my own kerneltree installed into > usr/src/testkernelwithextraJFSpatches , and then loose my existing , > working, tried kernelset. Okay, this part comes across barely intelligible, but if it helps substitut= e=20 TARGET=3D for SLOT=3D.. of course I did point out it was a suggestion, not = a=20 solution, and you have offered up what counterproposal? > When you get this set to -automagically- detect the target kernel., > build modules and fix. then ok. Again with the when "i" thing... > if you want it to depend on the running kernel, erm... No. theres a few > things already that do so, and that is -BROKEN- behaviour. I don't even > -HAVE- the sources for my running kernel at most times. What? No I > don't need them. I shouldn't need to have my sources for the hard > compiled and working copy of 2.4.18-saviour with extra everything that I > know boots all my machines and I have in a .tar stored away for working > order. "I" don't want to have it depend on a running kernel, or on a symlink, All = I=20 was saying is that in most cases it'd probably be just easier to boot into = a=20 running kernel and build your non-essential mod package, I realize that thi= s=20 is not always the case. =20 > Yes, this thread invoked a lot of hot emotions from my side. > > > // Spider Well, guess what? I was pretty pissed off _before_ I saw your mail, so you= =20 can imagine where I'm at now, especially since I've asked a couple of times= =20 why this symlink is necessary, when it's highly discouraged. If a package=20 needs this symlink, mask it, get it fixed upstream or dont carry it at all= =20 ffs. I point out the bad ones when I see them, and I atleast proffered a=20 suggestion. I was civil when this was a discussion, but turning this into a= =20 pissing match was sheer stupidity. But I guess I'm just the stupid end user= =20 with no say, I guess? Atleast when I'm being a prick, I only represent me.= =20 =2D-=20 Chuck Brewer Registered Linux User #284015 Get my gpg public key at pgp.mit.edu!! Encrypted e-mail preferred. --Boundary-02=_e0fl/8dS9eVUJlW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/lf0eGmszwkJY878RAlXQAKCz6zSX7LvP7XVRYjAup/yMgLkSTACghYLS V+Mna2PPljlUEzjP5MgUExQ= =8mls -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_e0fl/8dS9eVUJlW--