[gentoo-dev] Getting rid of nautilus

[gentoo-dev] Getting rid of nautilus

[Philippe Coulonges]

I use gnome and I like it.
But I don't use nautilus.
I don't like it as a file manager and I don't like it as a desktop
manager.
In fact I don't want any desktop manager. I like a clean background and
all my icons in panels.

Do you think it's possible to have gnome without nautilus dependencies ?

CU
CPHIL

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting rid of nautilus

[John D. Robinson]

I'm not sure I can answer your question exactly; I'd venture to say that 
you probably can be rid of Nautilus entirely. But achieving the UI 
result you're looking for at least is simple; Gconf can turn off the 
background icons. In gconf-editor, browse to 
/apps/nautilus/preferences/X, where X is 'desktop_is_home_dir' and 
'show_desktop'. Un-set those items, and the background will disappear. 
Without that necessity, at least on my system, Nautilus never loads 
unless you order it to explicitly.

- John

Philippe Coulonges wrote:
> I use gnome and I like it.
> But I don't use nautilus.
> I don't like it as a file manager and I don't like it as a desktop
> manager.
> In fact I don't want any desktop manager. I like a clean background and
> all my icons in panels.
> 
> Do you think it's possible to have gnome without nautilus dependencies ?


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting rid of nautilus

[Philippe Coulonges]

Le Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:30:31 -0500
"John D. Robinson" <strider@aravir.net> écrivait :

> I'm not sure I can answer your question exactly; I'd venture to say
> that you probably can be rid of Nautilus entirely. But achieving the
> UI result you're looking for at least is simple; Gconf can turn off
> the background icons. In gconf-editor, browse to 
> /apps/nautilus/preferences/X, where X is 'desktop_is_home_dir' and 
> 'show_desktop'. Un-set those items, and the background will disappear.
> 
I use a slightly different method.
I change the type in gnome-session to trash, then I destroy nautilus and
save my session.

> Without that necessity, at least on my system, Nautilus never loads 
> unless you order it to explicitly.

It doesn't load, but I still have to compile frequently a big program I
don't use. And as I can see my machine ain't broke without it, I would
like to know what exactly cause the dependence.

<TROLL>Maybe there's some good in the Debian "suggested" package type of
dependencies.</TROLL>

CU
CPHIL
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting rid of nautilus

[Spider]

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Philippe Coulonges <cphil@cphil.net> wrote:


> I use a slightly different method.
> I change the type in gnome-session to trash, then I destroy nautilus
> and save my session.
> 
> > Without that necessity, at least on my system, Nautilus never loads 
> > unless you order it to explicitly.
> 
> It doesn't load, but I still have to compile frequently a big program
> I don't use. And as I can see my machine ain't broke without it, I
> would like to know what exactly cause the dependence.
> 
> <TROLL>Maybe there's some good in the Debian "suggested" package type
> of dependencies.</TROLL>
> 

<INSIGHT> Maybe you shouldn't ask for a complete gnome
installation?</INSIGHT>

since you don't -want- all of gnome, dont install it. install the parts
you want and go ahead. if something brings in nautilus and youre deadly
afraid of installing nautilus, perhaps try injecting nautilus, and check
what the package thinks about it.  if you want us to remove a dep on
nautilus you'll have to prove that there aren't any binary differences
between a package built with nautilus in the system, and one built
without it.  
 ( That is, no dissapearing functionality nor any dissapearing
executables )

//Spider


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting rid of nautilus

[Thomas de Grenier de Latour]

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:15:07 +0200
Philippe Coulonges <cphil@cphil.net> wrote:

> It doesn't load, but I still have to compile frequently a big program
> I don't use. And as I can see my machine ain't broke without it, I
> would like to know what exactly cause the dependence.

I've also tried to get rid of nautilus, but control-center won't compile
without it, and I've not found any configure option to disable nautilus
support. I think here is a real dependency from an useful package.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting rid of nautilus

[Philippe Coulonges]

Le Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:47:50 +0200
Thomas de Grenier de Latour <degrenier@easyconnect.fr> écrivait :

> On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:15:07 +0200
> Philippe Coulonges <cphil@cphil.net> wrote:
> 
> > It doesn't load, but I still have to compile frequently a big
> > program I don't use. And as I can see my machine ain't broke without
> > it, I would like to know what exactly cause the dependence.
> 
> I've also tried to get rid of nautilus, but control-center won't
> compile without it, and I've not found any configure option to disable
> nautilus support. I think here is a real dependency from an useful
> package.

Conclusion, I have to talk about it with the gnome guys.
Thanks. It answers my question.

CU
CPHIL
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting rid of nautilus

[Ibraheem Umaru-Mohammed]

Philippe Coulonges wrote:

>I use gnome and I like it.
>But I don't use nautilus.
>I don't like it as a file manager and I don't like it as a desktop
>manager.
>In fact I don't want any desktop manager. I like a clean background and
>all my icons in panels.
>
>Do you think it's possible to have gnome without nautilus dependencies ?
>
>  
>
Can't you just emerge the gnome-panel? Or use "nautilus -no-desktop"?

          --ibz.


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