From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25332 invoked by uid 1002); 5 Oct 2003 14:53:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 25363 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2003 14:53:28 -0000 X-WM-Posted-At: mailandnews.com; Sun, 5 Oct 03 10:53:28 -0400 From: Jason Stubbs To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:47:09 +0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.9 References: <3F7D4315.1020900@gentoo.org> <200310052030.51507.jasonbstubbs@mailandnews.com> <200310051741.28963.sn.ml@bayminer.com> In-Reply-To: <200310051741.28963.sn.ml@bayminer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200310052347.09049.jasonbstubbs@mailandnews.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Speaking of new kernels being added to the tree X-Archives-Salt: 7f8d9fa6-afe5-4b49-a143-06acccdbd388 X-Archives-Hash: 6829eaac57fec87a0bf6b6c9f5a9b520 On Sunday 05 October 2003 23:41, Sami N=E4=E4t=E4nen wrote: > On Sunday 05 October 2003 14:30, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Sunday 05 October 2003 14:22, Kevyn Shortell wrote: > > > I don't think anyone has an argument with making things easier, but > > > we shouldn't make things easier for new users to the detriment of > > > making things more difficult for everyone else. There is a point > > > where Gentoo just might be more advanced than a new user is skill > > > wise, and accept that. > > > > Nobody's talking about making things harder for everyone else. > > "emerge linux-gentoo-src" as Luke-Jr suggested is detrimentally > > difficult when compared to "emerge gentoo-sources" is it? 2 extra > > keystrokes?! There are also many people saying that Gentoo might just > > be too hard for lusers. Why then was genkernel created in the first > > place? > > I'm certainly in favor of making the -src thing to active, because it > really gives people the full power. For example I have some times > wanted to look the code used in a package. I of course can simply untar > the tarball somewhere, but if the package contains multiple tarballs I > either has to find them, or start to ebuild package.ebuild unpack stuff > and then move the source tree from the temp location to somewhere where > it is not going to be overwriten. I although don't suggest that -src > suffix, but an option to the emerge, which tells it to install this > software to package's SLOT=3D"$P-src", from which I then could be looking > in $PORT_SRC_DIR/$P-src. Agreed here. An option to emerge is much more intuitive. > Oh and the kernel packages that would compile the kernel should install > the kernel headers of the compiled kernel to > /usr/src/linux-`uname -r`/include/ > so that any package that needs the real kernel headers can find them. Er, I'm pretty sure that the packages that need the source in /usr/src/linu= x=20 need more than just the headers - but don't quote me on that! Regards, Jason -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list