Re: [gentoo-dev] Speaking of new kernels being added to the tree

[Jason Stubbs <jasonbstubbs@mailandnews.com>]

On Sunday 05 October 2003 23:41, Sami Näätänen wrote:
> On Sunday 05 October 2003 14:30, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > On Sunday 05 October 2003 14:22, Kevyn Shortell wrote:
> > > I don't think anyone has an argument with making things easier, but
> > > we shouldn't make things easier for new users to the detriment of
> > > making things more difficult for everyone else. There is a point
> > > where Gentoo just might be more advanced than a new user is skill
> > > wise, and accept that.
> >
> > Nobody's talking about making things harder for everyone else.
> > "emerge linux-gentoo-src" as Luke-Jr suggested is detrimentally
> > difficult when compared to "emerge gentoo-sources" is it? 2 extra
> > keystrokes?! There are also many people saying that Gentoo might just
> > be too hard for lusers. Why then was genkernel created in the first
> > place?
>
> I'm certainly in favor of making the -src thing to active, because it
> really gives people the full power. For example I have some times
> wanted to look the code used in a package. I of course can simply untar
> the tarball somewhere, but if the package contains multiple tarballs I
> either has to find them, or start to ebuild package.ebuild unpack stuff
> and then move the source tree from the temp location to somewhere where
> it is not going to be overwriten. I although don't suggest that -src
> suffix, but an option to the emerge, which tells it to install this
> software to package's SLOT="$P-src", from which I then could be looking
> in $PORT_SRC_DIR/$P-src.

Agreed here. An option to emerge is much more intuitive.

> Oh and the kernel packages that would compile the kernel should install
> the kernel headers of the compiled kernel to
> /usr/src/linux-`uname -r`/include/
> so that any package that needs the real kernel headers can find them.

Er, I'm pretty sure that the packages that need the source in /usr/src/linux 
need more than just the headers - but don't quote me on that!

Regards,
Jason

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