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From: Jason Stubbs <jasonbstubbs@mailandnews.com>
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Speaking of new kernels being added to the tree
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 13:29:36 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200310041329.36931.jasonbstubbs@mailandnews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200310040356.47985.luke-jr@gentoo.org>

On Saturday 04 October 2003 12:56, Luke-Jr wrote:
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> On Saturday 04 October 2003 02:25 am, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> > You're not suggesting anything that provides a tangible benefit, you're
> > just suggesting expanding our tree to do something we already do. That
> > doesn't make sense.
>
> As it is currently done, Portage cannot track the kernel itself, only the
> kernel sources. Also, it leaves the kernel in /usr/src/linux when it isn't
> really needed once installed except perhaps to save configuration (which
> genkernel has stuff for) and object files to speed future compilations
> (which Portage should do if you keep /var/tmp/portage around anyway).
> It makes little sense to compile and install other packages but not compile
> and install Linux itself.

Agreed. (My other post was written and sent to my local server before reading 
yours but took a while to get out)

However, having portage compile and install Linux has several issues. Portage 
would need  to be able to:
1) handle multiple saved configurations automatically.
2) update lilo/grub automatically _with_ backup.
3) extract the source to /usr/src if need be (as already mentioned)
4) handle different configurations of the same kernel version.

Tangible benefits that I can see:
1) ccache can be used in compiling the kernel automatically
2) a lot of disk space can be saved.

A lot of work would need to be done to do this successfully, though; maybe 
something that should be left for portage v3...

Jason

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-04  4:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-03  9:36 [gentoo-dev] Speaking of new kernels being added to the tree Brad Laue
2003-10-03  9:54 ` Brad Laue
2003-10-03 18:12   ` C. Brewer
2003-10-03 19:26     ` Donnie Berkholz
2003-10-04  0:41       ` C. Brewer
2003-10-04  2:05         ` Donnie Berkholz
2003-10-04  3:50           ` C. Brewer
2003-10-03 15:34 ` Brian Jackson
2003-10-03 16:23   ` Brad Laue
2003-10-03 17:10     ` Brian Jackson
     [not found]   ` <3F7DA0C3.3000303@gentoo.org>
2003-10-03 17:10     ` Brian Jackson
2003-10-03 17:15       ` Jon Portnoy
2003-10-03 23:50   ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-03 23:58     ` Kurt Lieber
2003-10-04  0:01       ` Jason Stubbs
2003-10-04  2:16         ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04  0:15       ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04  2:25         ` Jon Portnoy
2003-10-04  3:56           ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04  4:29             ` Jason Stubbs [this message]
2003-10-04 12:40               ` Stuart Herbert
2003-10-04 13:10                 ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04 13:51                   ` Stuart Herbert
2003-10-04 14:04                     ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04 14:15                       ` Stuart Herbert
2003-10-04 14:36                         ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04 15:09                           ` Stuart Herbert
2003-10-04 17:20                             ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04 17:58                               ` Marius Mauch
2003-10-04 15:56                           ` Patrick Börjesson
2003-10-04 17:29                             ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04 18:27                               ` Patrick Börjesson
2003-10-04 23:38                                 ` William Kenworthy
2003-10-05  0:48                                   ` Patrick Börjesson
     [not found]                                   ` <200310050343.49697.sn.ml@bayminer.com>
2003-10-05  1:52                                     ` William Kenworthy
2003-10-05  2:39                                 ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04 13:33                 ` Stroller
2003-10-04 14:08                   ` William Kenworthy
2003-10-04 14:21                     ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04 14:14                   ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04 16:50                   ` Peter Ruskin
2003-10-04 13:50                 ` Patrick Börjesson
2003-10-04 13:57                   ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04 16:13                     ` Jon Portnoy
2003-10-04 17:25                       ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04 23:28                       ` Jason Stubbs
2003-10-05  0:17                         ` Kumba
2003-10-05  0:25                           ` James Harlow
2003-10-05  0:38                             ` Jason Stubbs
2003-10-05  0:48                               ` James Harlow
2003-10-05  2:10                               ` Kumba
2003-10-05  2:27                                 ` Jason Stubbs
2003-10-05  2:06                             ` Kumba
2003-10-05  2:44                               ` Jason Stubbs
2003-10-05  4:54                             ` Jon Portnoy
2003-10-05  5:28                             ` Kevyn Shortell
2003-10-05  0:50                           ` Jason Stubbs
2003-10-05  2:43                           ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-05  3:04                             ` Kumba
2003-10-05 14:24                               ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-05  5:22                         ` Kevyn Shortell
2003-10-05 11:30                           ` Jason Stubbs
     [not found]                             ` <200310051741.28963.sn.ml@bayminer.com>
2003-10-05 14:47                               ` Jason Stubbs
2003-10-05 15:53                                 ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-05 16:05                                   ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04 13:06               ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04  6:16             ` Donnie Berkholz
2003-10-04  6:34     ` Kumba
2003-10-04  7:27     ` Kevyn Shortell
2003-10-04 13:16       ` Luke-Jr
2003-10-04  2:03   ` Stroller
2003-10-04  2:08     ` Donnie Berkholz
2003-10-04  4:08       ` Stroller
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2003-10-05 18:24 Sami Näätänen

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