From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11231 invoked by uid 1002); 29 Sep 2003 16:48:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 4208 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2003 16:48:04 -0000 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:47:02 -0700 From: "C. Brewer" To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Message-Id: <20030929094702.1533f14d.cbrewer@stealthaccess.net> In-Reply-To: <200309290808.02657.caleb@gentoo.org> References: <20030928233223.4b684269.cbrewer@stealthaccess.net> <200309290301.28888.vapier@gentoo.org> <20030929014512.02c36d4e.cbrewer@stealthaccess.net> <200309290808.02657.caleb@gentoo.org> X-mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.5claws Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="Multipart_Mon__29_Sep_2003_09_47_02_-0700_6x6C0H3j=.PP/Bwk" Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] What is happening to the desktops? X-Archives-Salt: 0aadbf09-77be-42d9-b5be-f3f300aff513 X-Archives-Hash: b865db73671f2ccac24082a98f9ab2fd --Multipart_Mon__29_Sep_2003_09_47_02_-0700_6x6C0H3j=.PP/Bwk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:08:02 -0500 Caleb Tennis wrote: > I don't know how Gnome is set up, but all you need for a KDE installation > is to emerge kde-base/kdebase. It will pull down arts, kdelibs, and any > other system lib dependencies you don't already have. The dependencies in > these builds are relatively minor. If you don't already have Qt it will > pull that in as well (rather large). > > I don't see how this can be construed as "too many dependencies". On my > P4-2200 this whole process takes about 2 hours. Before high speed > broadband, it used to take me that long just to download the source code. > > Now, if you start installing all of the other *optional* kde packages > (games, multimedia, ..) it will increase your installation time 5 fold. > > Caleb I suppose optional is open to interpretation..but I was looking here- http://www.kde.org/download/ and what shows there is what the kde people consider a full installation, and the only prerequisite is qt, of course. Mike has already pointed out a couple of problems that could be improved,and in true vanilla fashion `emerge kde` should pull no more then whats listed at their site. I applaud your good fortune in having a fast cpu and connection, whereas my k6-2 500 and 56k connection find this mildly annoying. I think the fast cpu/fast connection has maybe jaded some devs because while it costs "relatively minor" time at their end, it increases 5x at the low end. I would be happy to prvide a USE free list of packages to be emerged if that would help:) This rant was merely aimed at the number of deps Gentoo calls for vs. the number the vanilla source calls for. -- Chuck Brewer Registered Linux User #284015 Get my gpg public key at pgp.mit.edu!! Encrypted e-mail preferred. --Multipart_Mon__29_Sep_2003_09_47_02_-0700_6x6C0H3j=.PP/Bwk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/eGILGmszwkJY878RAvmcAKCFq7oANAX8FdR6k5AjIKE5KBTvDwCfZ9m/ Ia+qXl626ZM9jzSUvTcZ23w= =EHp8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Multipart_Mon__29_Sep_2003_09_47_02_-0700_6x6C0H3j=.PP/Bwk--