From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23417 invoked by uid 1002); 15 Sep 2003 18:07:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 4349 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2003 18:07:23 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:04:00 +0200 From: Sven Vermeulen To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Message-ID: <20030915180400.GB8026@gentoo.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org References: <1063641562.12338.7.camel@Discovery.brad-x.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1063641562.12338.7.camel@Discovery.brad-x.com> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.20 X-Telephone: +32 486 460306 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 1.4.1 and GRP X-Archives-Salt: 209847de-96f6-4956-b298-61d58a7a152e X-Archives-Hash: e354dbdc978b94259e67fdf2f5ce364a --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 11:59:23AM -0400, Brad Laue wrote: > A concern of mine about many Linux distributions is that in the long > haul between binary releases of a distribution, the packages included > with the release can become quite old. In Gentoo's case, if one GRP > installed their system nine months from now and emerge -u'd, they would > be faced with a considerable number of packages to update (I wouldn't be > surprised if it was all of them). I'm going to be labeled as "not-user-friendly-bastard" on this one, but if you have a user that GRP installs Gentoo, and then wants to GRP-update with every release (and keeping in mind that drobbins want to increase the release-frequency), I'd have to say that he should take a look at the binary distributions. Which brings the topic to: > Realising that Gentoo is of course a source-based distribution, quickly > and easily installing the latest and greatest by using emerge -k, then > optimizing by rebuilding incrementally has surely sparked a great deal > of additional interest in the distribution. This is something that all distributions deliver: binary packages and an "easy" way to source-compile packages but keep them in the database. If Gentoo would go the same way, we are neglecting the source-based stuff. We should not focus on GRP-after-installation. As I see it, GRP isn't even the main installation method, but an option. If I am mistaken on this subject, please say so, because I am writing everything with this in mind (I am thinking of our handbook-to-come). These are, ofcourse, my thoughts on the subject. Wkr, Sven Vermeulen --=20 ^__^ And Larry saw that it was Good. (oo) Sven Vermeulen (__) http://www.gentoo.org Gentoo Documentation Project --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Zf8QXfqz7M26L9sRArOYAJ4vlPisjeBZhXzmK5Gyhzsi0Y+57QCdHT7O OV45jzQQqzpeNJm2d2B+sD0= =e+Wk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE--