From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10753 invoked by uid 1002); 11 Sep 2003 16:27:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 12103 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2003 16:27:35 -0000 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:27:34 -0400 From: Wes Chow To: "Hallgrimur H. Gunnarsson" , Martin Lesser , gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Message-ID: <20030911162734.GE3889@jeeves.woahnelly.net> References: <20030909211112.GA20604@data.is> <87iso1jg2m.fsf@nb-acer.better-com.de> <20030911135707.GB3889@jeeves.woahnelly.net> <20030911160024.GA974@data.is> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030911160024.GA974@data.is> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE flag 'daemontools' as an alternative to init.d X-Archives-Salt: bdced586-e163-43db-8bca-4dedcde07421 X-Archives-Hash: 0e25dfc84c0a332a0b2f247302b5164a > No, that'd be implemented in another layer above daemontools itself > (provided that you'd even want to do that with daemontools). > Daemontools is not meant to replace init.d in network initialization, > which isn't a daemon, so you couldn't supervise > it with daemontools. Daemontools is for managing daemons, > starting, stopping, restarting, status, signal delivery. But, can't daemons have dependencies on other daemons as well? For example, nfs depends on portmap. Many of these daemons might also depend on the system logger. It'd be nice to have the logger supervised *and* started up before any other daemon. And the implication with this faq entry: http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/faq/create.html#why is that daemontools is supposed to mostly replace all these init systems. At any rate, somebody else mentioned runit, which claims to be daemontools-like and has dependency support (and a more conventional license). "emerge search runit" didn't come up with anything, but maybe it should get some brain time as an option to daemontools? And after reading your bug posting, I agree that it would be nice to have automatically merged run scripts for daemons just in case you want to use a daemontool-like system. Wes -- http://www.woahnelly.net/~wes/ OpenPGP key = 0xA5CA6644 fingerprint = FDE5 21D8 9D8B 386F 128F DF52 3F52 D582 A5CA 6644 -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list