From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19927 invoked by uid 1002); 23 Aug 2003 23:16:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 26280 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2003 23:16:10 -0000 From: Luke-Jr Organization: Gentoo Linux To: Yuri Enshin , gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 23:16:00 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <20030823210429.57e7e85c.genone@genone.de> <3F47CFBA.7040805@formoza-centre.ru> In-Reply-To: <3F47CFBA.7040805@formoza-centre.ru> GPG-Public-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD53E9583 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="shift_jis" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308232316.08493.luke-jr@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] reason for dhcpcd in system profile ? X-Archives-Salt: 18dd6d12-b534-4a70-b8a7-20f4dc337fc7 X-Archives-Hash: 23c25d5eef5194fd042c2bccaa4a1c32 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This seems to be opposite of my reply I just sent :) I would agree that man-pages (and maybe man also, but many packages depend = on=20 it without mentioning it in DEPEND) should probably not be in system (along= =20 with all other documents). In fact, it would probably be a good idea to mak= e=20 a 'man' and 'info' USE flag and only install manpages/infopages when they a= re=20 set. Some users may *require* the ability to change console font or keyboard lay= out=20 to use the system (for example, if their system is weird and has a messed u= p=20 default font or something, or if someone has a physically QWERTY keyboard,= =20 but uses Dvorak) ext2/ext3 are still considered Linux native, so that may be justification f= or=20 their inclusion in system, if not for the fact that reiserfs is a bad idea= =20 for a /boot partition... I wouldn't have any objection to their removal fro= m=20 system, though. If rsync is in system, it probably should be removed. Portage could quite=20 easilly just install it when the user tries to sync if need be. hdparm, fbset may also be neccesary for system usage in some cases. I would= =20 agree that 'less' does not belong in system, though. To exclude network related programs from system, one would have to modify=20 baselayout to use the nonetwork initlevel by default logically, and I don't= =20 think that would be too simple (and might require a 'network' USE flag). On Saturday 23 August 2003 08:34 pm, Yuri Enshin wrote: > Hmm... May be, extend your question? > Some users know all about linux, so no reason to include man and > man-pages in system. > Some users never change default console font or keyboard layout, so no > reason to include kbd or console-tools in system. > Some users have no ext2/ext3 partiotions, so no reason to include in > system e2fsprogs. > Some users never use 'emerge sync' (only download snapshots), so no > reason to include rsync. > Some users never use less, hdparm, fbset... > Some users have no network on computer at all, so no reason to include > any network related programs in system. > I can continue this list. > > The reason for dhcpcd *in* system, IMHO: support for dhcp client - part > of universal, standart set of full-functional network-ready computer. > > > > -- > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list =2D --=20 Luke-Jr Developer, Gentoo Linux http://www.gentoo.org/ =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/R/W0Zl/BHdU+lYMRAvAHAJ93CIljUzyPAs2Mrk3XcOhcfqcX6gCgj/Be AwTJs10N232qrdxS4XmPSUQ=3D =3DVCT1 =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list