From: Paul <set@pobox.com>
To: Jon Portnoy <avenj@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Why should copyright assignment be a requirement?
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 02:41:09 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030821064109.GH26885@squish.home.loc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030821054616.GB3498@cerberus.oppresses.us>
Jon Portnoy <avenj@gentoo.org>, on Thu Aug 21, 2003 [01:46:16 AM] said:
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:16:37AM -0400, Paul wrote:
> > Maybe its my paranoia, but while I _might_ be willing
> > to assign copyright to the FSF, Im not sure a company with
> > a distribution deserves such trust. Witness Caldera...
>
> Maybe, but since we license it under the GPL, on the off chance that
> somebody suddenly inherited all of Gentoo's intellectual property and
> wanted to relicense it, old versions would still be under the GPL.
>
> >
> > Once you have the GPL, you have a license. I could
> > relicense an ebuild to, say some *BSD based thing, or some
> > commercial spin-off if I wanted (if I still hold copyright),
> > but that doesnt affect "Gentoo Technologies, Inc." right
> > to use the ebuild under the GPL. It just affects their ability
> > to completely control the 'intellectual property'.
>
> I'm talking about situations where a fork or some other entity wants to
> change the license: legally speaking, they _cannot_ change the license
> unless they're the copyright holder. If the contributor owns the
> copyright rather than Gentoo, only the contributor can begin legal
> proceedings against the infringing entity.
>
Hi;
Im having a hard time reconciling your first paragraph
with the second. First you point out that my rights under
the GPL wouldn't be affected by someone aquiring Gentoos IP,
then you claim Gentoo needs be able to protect against 'license
changing'. Probably you mean license violation?
If, say I had an ebuild in there, with my copyright
held by me, and someone started using it in some way that
violated my license (the GPL), then yes, I would be the one
who would have to take legal action. At that point, I have
choices. I could, for example, assign copyright to the FSF,
or Gentoo. I could ignore it, etc. I couldnt (as you
state) take away anyones ability to use it under the terms
of the GPL.
If I assign copyright to Gentoo, I have no more
choice. Someone could aquire all their 'IP', and make all the
ebuilds future modifications closed and proprietary.
In other words, if Gentoo has the copyright, they
have the choices about taking legal action, or inaction.
It gives them a product they have control over. I am
unconvinced that this is ultimately in the users benifit.
Paul
set@pobox.com
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-08-21 4:09 [gentoo-dev] Why should copyright assignment be a requirement? Paul
2003-08-21 4:14 ` Mike Frysinger
2003-08-21 4:34 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21 4:17 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21 4:51 ` Troy Dack
2003-08-21 5:09 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21 7:00 ` Daniel Robbins
2003-08-21 10:52 ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-21 5:11 ` Mike Gardiner
2003-08-21 7:04 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul
2003-08-21 5:11 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Gardiner
2003-08-21 5:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul
2003-08-21 5:46 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21 6:41 ` Paul [this message]
2003-08-21 6:50 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21 7:37 ` Paul
2003-08-21 10:14 ` Chris Bainbridge
2003-08-21 11:22 ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-21 17:56 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21 18:48 ` Chris Bainbridge
2003-08-21 19:31 ` Brian Jackson
2003-08-22 1:36 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-22 4:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul
2003-08-22 13:16 ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-21 10:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Spider
2003-08-21 8:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Sven Vermeulen
2003-08-21 9:04 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21 13:49 ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-21 18:00 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-22 0:35 ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-22 0:47 ` Lloyd D Budd
2003-08-22 1:15 ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-22 13:20 ` Lloyd D Budd
2003-08-21 13:19 ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-21 22:42 ` [gentoo-dev] copyright thread summary? Owen Gunden
2003-08-22 2:43 ` [gentoo-dev] Summary: "Why should copyright assignment be a requirement?" Alec Berryman
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