From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11702 invoked by uid 1002); 21 Aug 2003 05:42:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 8679 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2003 05:42:22 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 01:42:20 -0400 From: Jon Portnoy To: Stewart Honsberger Cc: Eric Olinger , gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Message-ID: <20030821054220.GA3498@cerberus.oppresses.us> References: <200308190133.21887.luke-jr@gentoo.org> <20030819064706.GB1138@gentoo.org> <200308200112.09533.luke-jr@gentoo.org> <1061383163.415.8.camel@vertigo> <20030820160508.00002737.moixa@gmx.ch> <20030820152740.GC30449@time> <20030820185654.103f6347.svyatogor@gentoo.org> <1061394716.414.42.camel@vertigo> <20030820093131.00001665.EvvL@RustedHalo.net> <3F445510.1070501@gentoo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F445510.1070501@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat X-Archives-Salt: e1b70b9f-53c2-4b54-9ef6-140458c1614d X-Archives-Hash: 14585340aa36a479ab115ee97acbc3c8 On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:13:52AM -0400, Stewart Honsberger wrote: [snip] > Like my Scotch namesake, I believe there shold be a vi-compliant editor > on the install CD (and within the chroot!) for more experienced users. > Vi is an editor that can be found on any UNIX / Linux system. Having > Nano around for inexperienced users (or the obstinate ones who are under > the impression that Nano is "more powerful" than Vi(M)) is also a good idea. Why? The amount of editing done prior to getting your system to a point where you can emerge vim (i.e., after emerge system) is minimal. Offhand, I can only think of make.conf. nano is more than enough for editing make.conf. We're trying to _cut down_ on bloat, not increase it. > > Vim is one of the first packages I merge on any Gentoo system, simply > because nano drives me up the wall (Forget to use "-w" on the command > line? Oops! File broken! Start over!); right along with my Cron and > Syslog daemons, before even the kernel. Okay, so merge after emerge system; why do you need it for editing a single file (make.conf)? (Oh, and try Esc+W to turn on/off autowrap in nano. You don't need to specify -w.) -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list