From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4672 invoked by uid 1002); 20 Aug 2003 22:53:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 10386 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2003 22:53:22 -0000 From: Stuart Herbert Reply-To: stuart@gentoo.org To: Paul de Vrieze , gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 23:51:13 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <20030818194238.GR1161@mail.lieber.org> <200308201809.52478.puggy@bobspants.com> <200308202036.48161.pauldv@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200308202036.48161.pauldv@gentoo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_it/Q/k5qKo+QPMH"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200308202351.14070.stuart@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat X-Archives-Salt: 3a85a1d9-14dd-4165-a3dd-77881a2df5bc X-Archives-Hash: c8740705be6212048c58d45841c2d84d --Boundary-02=_it/Q/k5qKo+QPMH Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 20 August 2003 7:36 pm, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Wednesday 20 August 2003 19:09, Douglas Russell wrote: > > I agree with this entirely. I just don't understand what you would need > > vi(m) to change a few variables for. nano does a really good job and is > > really easy to use for inexperienced users where as vi is a bit dauntin= g. Because, for professional UNIX hacks like myself, vi is an editor that is=20 universally present on just about all UNIX-like operating systems. Not=20 everyone installing Gentoo is an inexperienced user. And I'll leave the=20 debate at that. > Please, not again (or do it on the users list). vi is on the install cd > because of people not being "able" to work with nano. We managed to keep = it > out of system which I believe is good. Now stop the discussion, vi has be= en > discussed too much on this list allready, and nothing should change to the > current situation concerning vim. > > Paul Sorry, Paul, I don't agree with you about leaving vim alone on the basic=20 install CD, and I'm not happy about you telling people to stop the discussi= on=20 either. On the basic install CD, vim takes up megabytes of diskspace - spa= ce=20 that could and should be saved. We're not talking about trying to save 200= K,=20 we're talking a substantial saving. Best regards, Stu =2D-=20 Stuart Herbert stuart@gentoo.o= rg Gentoo Developer http://www.gentoo.or= g/ Beta packages for download http://dev.gentoo.org/~stuart/package= s/ Come and meet me in March 2004 http://www.phparch.com/cruis= e/ GnuGP key id# F9AFC57C available from http://pgp.mit.edu Key fingerprint =3D 31FB 50D4 1F88 E227 F319 C549 0C2F 80BA F9AF C57C =2D- --Boundary-02=_it/Q/k5qKo+QPMH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/Q/tiDC+AuvmvxXwRAsSQAKCw69nNBHA5Oe/wx0eJm5CuHxLsgwCgqe8f 6oE9nx0BnjafFvit0PYtktU= =sd4t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_it/Q/k5qKo+QPMH--