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From: Tavis Ormandy <taviso@gentoo.org>
To: Stuart Herbert <stuart@gentoo.org>
Cc: Svyatogor <svyatogor@gentoo.org>, gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 23:34:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030820233415.GA18365@sdf.lonestar.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200308202343.02018.stuart@gentoo.org>

On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:42:54PM +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> Having a vi-compatible editor on the basic install CD (sorry, but I hate the 
> term LiveCD when applied to the basic install CD, because it's *not* a Live 
> CD) is essential.  Having a complete vim installation isn't.
> 

Having KDE doesnt make a cd "live", LiveCD is a contraction of "Live
filesystem" which obviously applies to the installation cd. I've never
downloaded any of the demonstration cd's, but i've still needed a rescue
disc to save a dying box, and the installation cd came in handy.

Vim is an essential tool for me, if it wasnt available for use when
preparing a gentoo installation, i would install from something else
that does provide it - i feel that strongly about it. 

And we're not talking about a few megabytes here, we're talking about a
few hundred K's, with USE=minimal my vim binary is just 400k.

And if its that serious an issue, theres always upx :)

> I'm sure there are smaller, vi-compatible editors out there suitable for 
> putting onto the basic install CD.

im sure there are, but vi != vim.

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-20 23:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-18 19:42 [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat Kurt Lieber
2003-08-18 21:17 ` Dhruba Bandopadhyay
2003-08-18 23:03 ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-19  0:06   ` Bob Johnson
2003-08-19  1:33     ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-19  6:47       ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-08-19  6:54         ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-19  6:59           ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-08-19  7:10             ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21  5:00           ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-08-21  6:16             ` C. Brewer
2003-08-20  1:10         ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-20  7:31           ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-08-20 13:09             ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-20 12:39           ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-20 13:18             ` Michael Cummings
2003-08-20 13:18               ` Douglas Russell
2003-08-20 14:05             ` Tobias Sager
2003-08-20 15:27               ` Aron Griffis
2003-08-20 15:56                 ` Svyatogor
2003-08-20 15:51                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-20 16:27                     ` matt c
2003-08-20 17:09                       ` Douglas Russell
2003-08-20 18:36                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-20 22:51                           ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-20 16:31                     ` Eric Olinger
2003-08-20 17:05                       ` Matt Rickard
2003-08-21  5:13                       ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-08-21  5:42                         ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21  5:59                           ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-08-21  6:08                             ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21  6:25                               ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-08-21  6:51                                 ` Ralph F. De Witt
     [not found]                               ` <3F4464DC.1010904@snerk.org>
2003-08-21  6:30                                 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21 16:58                                   ` [gentoo-dev] OT: Re: Nano. WAS: " Stroller
2003-08-21 17:41                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2003-08-21  9:34                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-21  9:54                               ` Douglas Russell
2003-08-21 17:55                                 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21  9:52                           ` Toby Dickenson
2003-08-20 18:43                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-20 22:42                   ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-20 23:34                     ` Tavis Ormandy [this message]
2003-08-21  1:16                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-21  2:06                         ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-21 10:29                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-23 14:43                       ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-20 15:22             ` Aron Griffis
2003-08-20 12:43           ` Kurt Lieber
2003-08-20 14:09             ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-20 18:40               ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-20 20:01             ` Daniel Armyr
2003-08-20 23:05               ` William Kenworthy
2003-08-19 11:21   ` Chris Gianelloni

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