From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25610 invoked by uid 1002); 20 Aug 2003 17:12:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 4513 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2003 17:12:01 -0000 From: Douglas Russell Organization: University Of Reading To: "matt c" Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:09:32 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <20030818194238.GR1161@mail.lieber.org> <1061394716.414.42.camel@vertigo> <001d01c36737$e34b9730$1401a8c0@punx> In-Reply-To: <001d01c36737$e34b9730$1401a8c0@punx> Cc: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308201809.52478.puggy@bobspants.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat X-Archives-Salt: e26ce30c-e0a1-43e0-a6f4-5208062abd77 X-Archives-Hash: 53ea703c822c59ad22bb3b2625c75f1a =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:27 pm, matt c wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Gianelloni" > Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat > > >vim is only available outside of chroot. It is not in the stages, and > >isn't available while in chroot. Personally, I HATE nano, but I think > >if we're going to have an editor on the CD by default, we should pick > >one and stick with it rather than trying to meet the needs of every > >user's desire. After all, what's next? "I hate nano and vim, someone > >put emacs on the Live CD." > > > >I honestly think we need to differentiate the "install" CD from the > >"Live" CD. The installation CD should be as minimal as possible and > >able to fit on other media easily (such as USB pen drives). > > This is a good point. Here is a "my personal experience" story, ending wi= th > . When I first installed linux many moons ago (don't remember the distro) > vi was the only editor available on this distro. I never bothered to learn > vi. I installed gentoo over a year ago - nano was a very self-explanatory > text editor, and it "got the job done". I've learned basic vi editing in > the meantime, but nano is great for new users. When I needed to edit a > file, I ended up botching the file more often than not with vi (as I didn= 't > know the commands or movements.) IMO, Nano is much simpler and intuitive > *for non-vi folk* - and the editor in use should be the same both inside > and outside of the stage chroot (it just Makes Sense). > > Matt > > > > > -- > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list I agree with this entirely. I just don't understand what you would need vi(= m)=20 to change a few variables for. nano does a really good job and is really ea= sy=20 to use for inexperienced users where as vi is a bit daunting. Puggy =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Q6teXYnvgFdTojMRArLBAKDLDmHA3+U202kVNSvnMWCAoHwrugCePsx7 dzcHXx84ET2H+doJCUP+dfY=3D =3DRFsc =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list