From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11444 invoked by uid 1002); 12 Aug 2003 14:13:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 32395 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2003 14:13:49 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:43:10 +0300 From: Svyatogor To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Message-Id: <20030812164310.17bd32bf.svyatogor@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20030812124513.GD4094@mail.lieber.org> References: <20030804183108.GA6036@gentoo.org> <20030812124513.GD4094@mail.lieber.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="=.x:ZNGUW,d)Z48+" Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP #10 -- Proposal for restructuring the CVS regarding documentation wrt internationalization proposal X-Archives-Salt: b4237d2a-ab4e-454e-abb5-6691caa634fc X-Archives-Hash: cfa38bec04c32bdbf834e6e3de46dbfd --=.x:ZNGUW,d)Z48+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:45:17 -0400 Kurt Lieber wrote: > On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 08:31:08PM +0200 or thereabouts, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0010.html > > > All feedback appreciated, especially from the infrastructure folks as it is > > mainly infrastructure related. > > OK, so I finally had a chance to review and think about this GLEP. Below > are some questions/comments that I have. > > 1) I'd like Robin (robbat2) to comment on this since the primary reason for > the GLEP seems to be better control over CVS permissions. I know Robin has > some ideas on how he wants to change CVS permissions, so his feedback here > is important. (cc'd on this email) Primary reason depends very much on you point of view. For me primary reason is higher level of i18n efforts, including $LANG.gentoo.org > > 2) One thing that isn't clear in the GLEP. Is > http://www.gentoo.org/${LANGUAGE} an *exact* copy of > http://www.gentoo.org/en/? Or are the internationalization teams allowed > to change things? For the most part, I would like to ensure that we have > one, consistent web site, so I'd like to see translations happening, but > not alternate content per se. > > You touch a bit upon this in the "Internationalized Website" but I'm still > not clear on how it works, so some clarification would be appreciated. This has been discussed. I believe that many translators (including FRLinux and me) have agreed that pure internationalization is prety much useless. I.e. the $LANG.gentoo.org should contain not only translated items from the main page but also any news related to their community. As you mentioned correctly we are trying to achieve two diff goals internationalization and support of communities (localization). I feel that Gentoo management does not fully understand the importance of the second goal. As Gentoo is getting more and more popular, more communities arrise everywhere. The $LANG.gentoo.org pages have a very good chance of becoming the leading community pages, the ones which provide the official info. Otherwise various pages will be created elsewhere and we will not have any effect over them and over the info they provide. Being an international user myself, I know how important it is to have such local support strcture and think that we should not miss the chance to implement. -- Let the Force be with us! Sergey Kuleshov Public Key: http://dev.gentoo.org/~sergey/gentoo-gpg --=.x:ZNGUW,d)Z48+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/OO71bYNN+aDJgscRAuELAJ9QF7fLy9MyIQ0a7TSX/3JJWuT0jgCfRmmS vRjU4Ur2gKxciSE1rutFMGc= =PgCj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=.x:ZNGUW,d)Z48+--