[gentoo-dev] removing debianutils from profiles

[gentoo-dev] removing debianutils from profiles

[Mike Frysinger]

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since coreutils provides 'readlink' now, do we still need debianutils ?  the 
files it currently provides are:
/bin/tempfile
/bin/mktemp
/bin/run-parts
/usr/sbin/savelog
/usr/sbin/mkboot
/sbin/installkernel
i know we used 'readlink' in portage and in baselayout, but since coreutils 
takes care of that, why not punt this pkg ?
only thing i can think of is maybe 'tempfile' and 'mktemp' are used, but i 
could always put together some small bashscripts to add to baselayout to take 
care of those ...
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] removing debianutils from profiles

[Paul de Vrieze]

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On Sunday 03 August 2003 03:10, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> since coreutils provides 'readlink' now, do we still need debianutils ? 
> the files it currently provides are:
> /bin/tempfile
> /bin/mktemp
> /bin/run-parts
> /usr/sbin/savelog
> /usr/sbin/mkboot
> /sbin/installkernel
> i know we used 'readlink' in portage and in baselayout, but since coreutils
> takes care of that, why not punt this pkg ?
> only thing i can think of is maybe 'tempfile' and 'mktemp' are used, but i
> could always put together some small bashscripts to add to baselayout to
> take care of those ...
> -mike

I don't think a bashscript is useful for mktemp. It is basically a wrapper 
around a libc function (mkstemp). There are various security considerations 
with mktemp, so hacking together one in bash is probably not smart. I 
personally use that command in some of my scripts so I think the command 
should stay. I do not know though, whether any part of system uses it.

Paul

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Re: [gentoo-dev] removing debianutils from profiles

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 21:10, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> /bin/tempfile
> /bin/mktemp

> i know we used 'readlink' in portage and in baselayout, but since coreutils 
> takes care of that, why not punt this pkg ?
> only thing i can think of is maybe 'tempfile' and 'mktemp' are used, but i 
> could always put together some small bashscripts to add to baselayout to take 
> care of those ...

I know I have used them in a couple things, so they definitely need to
be added.

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Chris Gianelloni
Developer, Gentoo Linux


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Re: [gentoo-dev] removing debianutils from profiles

[Martin Schlemmer]

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On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 03:10, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> since coreutils provides 'readlink' now, do we still need debianutils ?  the 
> files it currently provides are:
> /bin/tempfile
> /bin/mktemp
> /bin/run-parts
> /usr/sbin/savelog
> /usr/sbin/mkboot
> /sbin/installkernel
> i know we used 'readlink' in portage and in baselayout, but since coreutils 
> takes care of that, why not punt this pkg ?
> only thing i can think of is maybe 'tempfile' and 'mktemp' are used, but i 
> could always put together some small bashscripts to add to baselayout to take 
> care of those ...

We should just removed the readlink it installs ... mkboot,
installkernel, run-parts, savelog is all used by various things.

I do not recommend on removing it, or vote to do so.


Regards,

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Martin Schlemmer
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop/System Team Developer
Cape Town, South Africa



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Re: [gentoo-dev] removing debianutils from profiles

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 06:20, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> should stay. I do not know though, whether any part of system uses it.

The nvidia-kernel drivers use them, so I think that is reason enough to
keep mktemp.

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Developer, Gentoo Linux


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Re: [gentoo-dev] removing debianutils from profiles

[Georgi Georgiev]

On 04/08/2003 at 07:32:24(-0400), Chris Gianelloni used 0.3K just to say:
> On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 06:20, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> > should stay. I do not know though, whether any part of system uses it.
> 
> The nvidia-kernel drivers use them, so I think that is reason enough to
> keep mktemp.

This is not a part of the system is it?
nvidia-kernel can depend on the ebuild instead.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] removing debianutils from profiles

[Martin Schlemmer]

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On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 14:28, Georgi Georgiev wrote:
> On 04/08/2003 at 07:32:24(-0400), Chris Gianelloni used 0.3K just to say:
> > On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 06:20, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> > > should stay. I do not know though, whether any part of system uses it.
> > 
> > The nvidia-kernel drivers use them, so I think that is reason enough to
> > keep mktemp.
> 
> This is not a part of the system is it?
> nvidia-kernel can depend on the ebuild instead.

No, but the cron system depend on this, as well as a lot of other
things, and the overhead is really so small, that I cannot see why
to remove it.  Also, it is used by the kernel if you call 'make install'
...


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Martin Schlemmer
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop/System Team Developer
Cape Town, South Africa



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