Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone appreciate this VERY dumb idea....

["KH c" <linuxlivecd@yahoo.com.hk>]

GOOD FOR GENTOO!
I wish you all the luck in this project. At my current
level I won't be able to contribute much but ideas and
suggestion.
Cool! Highly optimize Operating System build in front
of your eye. Surely we offer something that NO OS even
remotely dreamt of, certainly NOT M$-Windoze. 
  If it it successful, I look forward to apply this
concept in other Distro. So "one click" optimization
is near.

Cheers!
Euler Cheung 


 --- Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@gentoo.org> 的郵件內容：>
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 07:48, KH c wrote:
> > Hello all Gentoo developer,
> >   I get an (maybe dumb) idea: Gentoo is VERY
> OPTIMIZE
> > for your hardware because you have to compile one
> > program by another, and manual fix any problem
> happen.
> > It is a turn off for Linux newbie even though s/he
> has
> > a lot of patience. Is there a way to comprise?
> >   Assuming the user has a lot time and no trouble
> > happen inbetween.
> >   I would suggest how about writing an intelligent
> > installer that will automatically check
> dependency,
> > download it and install it like urpmi in Manadrake
> or
> > apt-get in Debian so even new user can enjoy the
> > benefit of optimization WITHOUT the hardwork? i.e.
> I
> > want to install X, just tell the program and it
> will
> > take care of the whole process for me. Is it
> possible?
> >   Or how about a pre-written scipt that will do
> the
> > compile process for different type of pre-set
> usage
> > like Desktop, Mutimedia, Networking, Internet?
> i.e. It
> > is not a pre-installed package, it is a pre-set
> > packager that will do the packaging right in front
> of
> > the user's eye. Each user get the same package and
> > script yet it is OPTIMIZE for their computer after
> > they install it. What do you think about this
> idea?
> >
> 
> Well, we are currently working on the Gentoo
> Reference Project which provides 
> prebuild binaries with sensible defaults. That would
> make it possible to get 
> up and running rather fast. Then a user can specify
> his optimisations and 
> build new packages with those optimizations. We also
> have a utility that 
> provides the recommended compilation flags for each
> architecture, and we do 
> not advise to deviate from them too much. It is
> indeed very possible to make 
> compilations fail with wrong useflags. (In some
> cases applications actually 
> compile correctly but function wrong, or
> unpredictable).
> 
> Given no overagressive use flags it should be
> possible after the preliminary 
> installation (from the installation documentation)
> to just say "emerge kde 
> gnome mozilla" and have them all automatically
> installed. This process should 
> run without errors and after some (well probably a
> lot depending on your 
> hardware) time it should finish telling you that kde
> gnome and mozilla were 
> merged. If this process does fail at some
> intermediary point, please report 
> it as it is a bug and should not happen.
> 
> Paul
> 
> -- 
> Paul de Vrieze
> Researcher
> Mail: pauldv@cs.kun.nl
> Homepage: http://www.cs.kun.nl/~pauldv
> 

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