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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Winex-cvs being removed from portage?
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On Friday 25 July 2003 05:47, Owen Gunden wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 10:01:37PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > How about because they asked us to?  Essentially, we have been asked to
> > not create an automated process to allow a user to install winex from
> > cvs.  The anonymous cvs is there for people to assist in development
> > with winex.  Technically, there is nothing stopping us from continuing
> > to provide winex-cvs ebuilds.  However, Gentoo is part of a larger
> > community and quite simply, you don't maintain your status as a useful
> > member of the community if you go around pissing off your neighbors.  In
> > fact, there is nothing keeping Transgaming from pulling the anonymous
> > cvs access for the winex sources from sourceforge and making it
> > available to subscriber's only.
>
> Then why is the anonymous cvs access available in the first place?  Also,
> are you sure they don't have to release the source because of the GPL?
> IANAL, and I certainly don't know what I'm talking about.  Just wondering.

To make it clear.

winex is not GPL, I believe it has a MIT-X license. Further we have been as=
ked=20
not to provide the cvs ebuild. This makes it easy for people to use the cvs=
=20
version of winex, so getting winex without paying. The people making winex=
=20
still need to eat though, so if we continue to offer winex-cvs ebuilds a=20
consequence could be that they close up their cvs to protect their living,=
=20
and with that hurting a lot of innocent bystanders. They see their cvs acce=
ss=20
as a way people can help contribute to winex, and get winex in return. They=
=20
don't mind people getting winex for free if those people help developing. T=
he=20
way the gentoo ebuild works, makes it very easy for people to use the cvs=20
version without even thinking. Most of those people probably do not help=20
developing winex, and as such use a resource without paying for it.

Paul

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Paul de Vrieze
Researcher
Mail: pauldv@cs.kun.nl
Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

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