Hi, I want to apologize for the way in which I responded to Zhen (John Davis.) John, I'm very sorry. Many of the issues in my original email should have been handled off-list. I could have posted a short, simple email to -dev to address the users who may have been slighted in the discussion without offending you. Sincerely, -- Daniel Robbins Chief Architect, Gentoo Linux http://www.gentoo.org