From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16455 invoked by uid 1002); 15 Jul 2003 04:15:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 8444 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 04:15:35 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 23:15:34 -0500 From: splite To: John Davis Cc: gentoo-core@gentoo.org, gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Message-ID: <20030714231534.C12388@sigint.cs.purdue.edu> References: <20030714214621.33b75fbd.zhen@gentoo.org> <20030714220238.B12388@sigint.cs.purdue.edu> <20030714230801.6688ba3f.zhen@gentoo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030714230801.6688ba3f.zhen@gentoo.org>; from zhen@gentoo.org on Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 11:08:01PM -0400 X-Disclaimer: Any similarity to an opinion of Purdue is purely coincidental Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo part II. X-Archives-Salt: b6dc8eda-071c-4724-bc57-ead5c9f508bb X-Archives-Hash: f8297ffb7dca60d727b9516e4d412366 On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 11:08:01PM -0400, John Davis wrote: > > Apparently, you did not read my last paragraph that asked for > *intellectual* discussion, and not a flame war. No flaming intended. As it happens, I read your last paragraph very carefully, hoping to see a big "April Fool!" at the end. Sorry if my style offended you, but I wasn't aware that "intellectual" meant "oblivious to satire." So let me be direct: The stuff you're proposing is what's killing Debian, and steered me away from it in the first place. I suspect I'm not the only one. Here are some serious, intellectual questions (note the scholarly Roman numerals): I. Wouldn't developer's time be better spent _developing_ instead of reading minutes, making motions, and voting? II. Wouldn't users's time be better spent _using_ Gentoo to get some actual work done instead of reading proposed amendments and lobbying for new rules? As a user and potential developer, I certainly don't have time for that kind of shit. If I want politics, I'll watch C-SPAN or run for city council. > I am not going to flame with you, grow up, learn to be proactive. Good, I hate flamewars. If by "grow up", you mean, "saddle myself and others with lots of arbitrary rules in lieu of doing useful work", then no thanks. And here I thought I was being proactive. Or should I wait until the first Gentoo Continental Congress and submit my concerns as a rider to an appropriations bill? Shoot, I'm satirising again, aren't I? Seriously, I don't doubt your good intentions, but IMO, you're taking Gentoo way _too_ seriously. Gentoo is fun and useful. Rules and politics can only make it less so. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list