Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Brett Simpson]

>>> "Robin H.Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org> 07/13/03 01:28 AM >>>

> Apache1 with "emerge '=net-www/apache-1*'" and it will not > >  conflict with Apache2. 

I tried this with 

emerge '=net-www/apache-1*' -up apache

and 

emerge '=net-www/apache-1*' -p apache

The first one still wanted to upgrade my Apache to 2.0.x while the second wanted to rebuild Apache 1.3.x and then upgrade to 2.0.x. 

Until I have a chance to test serveral of my production Gentoo servers on Apache 2.0.x I will need to maintain security updates on Apache 1.3.x for at least several more weeks. Is there another way to do this?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Paul de Vrieze]

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On Sunday 13 July 2003 15:32, Brett Simpson wrote:
> >>> "Robin H.Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org> 07/13/03 01:28 AM >>>
> >
> > Apache1 with "emerge '=net-www/apache-1*'" and it will not > >  conflict
> > with Apache2.
>
> I tried this with
>
> emerge '=net-www/apache-1*' -up apache
>
> and
>
> emerge '=net-www/apache-1*' -p apache
>

emerge <=net-www/apache-2 -p

or 

emerge '=net-www/apache-1*' -p

get you further. Your commands actually tell portage to merge apache twice

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Brett Simpson]

>> Ian Truelsen <ian@ihtruelsen.dyndns.org> 07/13/03 16:47 PM >>>
> The easiest way to accomplish this is to create the file
> /etc/portage/profiles/package.mask and populate it with:

> >=net-www/apache-2.0.47


Awesome!! Thanks!!

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Brett Simpson]

>>> Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@gentoo.org> 07/13/03 15:30 PM >>>
>emerge <=net-www/apache-2 -p
>
>or 
>
>emerge '=net-www/apache-1*' -p

Is there a way to combine that with emerge -up world? I have about 30 packages that can be upgraded and I'd rather not have to do an emerge -u package_name for each one.


Brett
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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Ian Truelsen]

On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:25:26 -0400
"Brett Simpson" <simpsonb@hillsboroughcounty.org> wrote:

> >>> Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@gentoo.org> 07/13/03 15:30 PM >>>
> >emerge <=net-www/apache-2 -p
> >
> >or 
> >
> >emerge '=net-www/apache-1*' -p
> 
> Is there a way to combine that with emerge -up world? I have about 30
> packages that can be upgraded and I'd rather not have to do an emerge
> -u package_name for each one.
> 
The easiest way to accomplish this is to create the file
/etc/portage/profiles/package.mask and populate it with:

>=net-www/apache-2.0.47

That will keep the system from updating to apache 2. 

I think that was what this thread was about :)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Andrew Cowie]

Speaking about how not to have apache2 show up on your system,
On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 06:47, Ian Truelsen wrote:
> The easiest way to accomplish this is to create the file
> /etc/portage/profiles/package.mask and populate it with:
> 
> >=net-www/apache-2.0.47

I nosed around my system and discovered I don't have an /etc/portage. I
do have a /usr/portage of course, with a profiles/packages.mask in it. 

In my make.globals, PORTDIR=/usr/portage, and that seems to be the value
inherited by emerge. Fair enough, but I'm a little worried about mention
of /etc/portage. Is that an override? Is that a different value of
PORTDIR? Should I (everyone) be migrating? Is this something baselayout
or portage should have created on an upgrade?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Dhruba Bandopadhyay]

Andrew Cowie wrote:
> I nosed around my system and discovered I don't have an /etc/portage. I
> do have a /usr/portage of course, with a profiles/packages.mask in it. 

You have to create it yourself if you feel the need for it.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[FRLinux]

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I got a little problem (apologies to those who will have received the
emails) but i'm using a local fetchmail + procmail + postfix system and
procmail died after the mysql upgrade from 3 to 4, had to recompile it.

Steph

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 11:32, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
> Andrew Cowie wrote:
> > I nosed around my system and discovered I don't have an /etc/portage. I
> > do have a /usr/portage of course, with a profiles/packages.mask in it. 
> 
> You have to create it yourself if you feel the need for it.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Georgi Georgiev]

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On 15/07/2003 at 10:38:56(+0100), FRLinux used 1.2K just to say:
> I got a little problem (apologies to those who will have received the
> emails) but i'm using a local fetchmail + procmail + postfix system and
> procmail died after the mysql upgrade from 3 to 4, had to recompile it.

You're expected to have to recompile any packages that are linked to mysql.
I for example had to recompile mod_php, xmysqladmin and something else...

Check out $PORTDIR/dev-db/mysql/files/rebuilder.sh

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Robin H.Johnson]

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On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 07:01:59PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote:
> On 15/07/2003 at 10:38:56(+0100), FRLinux used 1.2K just to say:
> > I got a little problem (apologies to those who will have received the
> > emails) but i'm using a local fetchmail + procmail + postfix system and
> > procmail died after the mysql upgrade from 3 to 4, had to recompile it.
> 
> You're expected to have to recompile any packages that are linked to mysql.
> I for example had to recompile mod_php, xmysqladmin and something else...
> 
> Check out $PORTDIR/dev-db/mysql/files/rebuilder.sh

Please read the messages after the MySQL4 merge more carefully.  the
rebuilder.sh script has been superceeded by 'revdep-rebuild' from
gentoolkit. The rebuilder.sh script did not always merge packages in the
correct order, whereas the revdep-rebuild command as of
gentoolkit-0.1.30 does.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Andrew Cowie]

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 20:32, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
> Andrew Cowie wrote:
> > I nosed around my system and discovered I don't have an /etc/portage. I
> > do have a /usr/portage of course, with a profiles/packages.mask in it. 
> 
> You have to create it yourself if you feel the need for it.

Fair enough.

What is the expected behaviour of /etc/portage/profiles? Is the content
of, say, /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask expected to be merged with
/etc/portage/profiles/package.mask by emerge when calculating
dependencies? 

[My experiments showed that this is not the behaviour that occurs - the
one I created in /etc/portage/profiles was ignored]

I made the updates to package.mask in /usr/portage/profiles to "pin"
(good word for it, even if it is Debian in origin) MySql at < 4 and
Apache at < 2, but my concern is that the file in /usr/portage/profiles
gets updated whenever an emerge rsync is done, and so my changes were,
(as I expected) lost.

I feel like I'm missing something here.

AfC


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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Chris Gianelloni]

How exactly are you adding the applications to
/etc/portage/profiles/package.mask?  I found that adding
>=net-www/apache-2.0.0 worked perfectly to keep apache at 1.x

Chris Gianelloni

On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 08:10, Andrew Cowie wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 20:32, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
> > Andrew Cowie wrote:
> > > I nosed around my system and discovered I don't have an /etc/portage. I
> > > do have a /usr/portage of course, with a profiles/packages.mask in it. 
> > 
> > You have to create it yourself if you feel the need for it.
> 
> Fair enough.
> 
> What is the expected behaviour of /etc/portage/profiles? Is the content
> of, say, /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask expected to be merged with
> /etc/portage/profiles/package.mask by emerge when calculating
> dependencies? 
> 
> [My experiments showed that this is not the behaviour that occurs - the
> one I created in /etc/portage/profiles was ignored]
> 
> I made the updates to package.mask in /usr/portage/profiles to "pin"
> (good word for it, even if it is Debian in origin) MySql at < 4 and
> Apache at < 2, but my concern is that the file in /usr/portage/profiles
> gets updated whenever an emerge rsync is done, and so my changes were,
> (as I expected) lost.
> 
> I feel like I'm missing something here.
> 
> AfC
> 


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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Andrew Cowie]

On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 22:37, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> How exactly are you adding the applications to
> /etc/portage/profiles/package.mask?  I found that adding
> >=net-www/apache-2.0.0 worked perfectly to keep apache at 1.x

That is exactly what I have in /etc/portage/profiles/package.mask, and
yet emerge still wants to bring in 2.0.47 . If I make that change to the
package.mask in /usr/portage/profiles, it behaves. [Until the next
emerge rsync, of course]

It's almost as if portage is ignoring that directory.

Is there a change to some central config file (make.conf? make.globals?)
That I may somehow have missed? Some new environment / make variable?
The rest of my tree seems up to date (I did an emerge world not too long
ago)

AfC

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Chris Gianelloni]

I did not have to do anything other than create the directories and
file.

Chris Gianelloni

On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 08:48, Andrew Cowie wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 22:37, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > How exactly are you adding the applications to
> > /etc/portage/profiles/package.mask?  I found that adding
> > >=net-www/apache-2.0.0 worked perfectly to keep apache at 1.x
> 
> That is exactly what I have in /etc/portage/profiles/package.mask, and
> yet emerge still wants to bring in 2.0.47 . If I make that change to the
> package.mask in /usr/portage/profiles, it behaves. [Until the next
> emerge rsync, of course]
> 
> It's almost as if portage is ignoring that directory.
> 
> Is there a change to some central config file (make.conf? make.globals?)
> That I may somehow have missed? Some new environment / make variable?
> The rest of my tree seems up to date (I did an emerge world not too long
> ago)
> 
> AfC
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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Dhruba Bandopadhyay]

Andrew Cowie wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 22:37, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> 
>>How exactly are you adding the applications to
>>/etc/portage/profiles/package.mask?  I found that adding
>>
>>>=net-www/apache-2.0.0 worked perfectly to keep apache at 1.x
> 
> 
> That is exactly what I have in /etc/portage/profiles/package.mask, and
> yet emerge still wants to bring in 2.0.47 . If I make that change to the
> package.mask in /usr/portage/profiles, it behaves. [Until the next
> emerge rsync, of course]
> 
> It's almost as if portage is ignoring that directory.
> 
> Is there a change to some central config file (make.conf? make.globals?)
> That I may somehow have missed? Some new environment / make variable?
> The rest of my tree seems up to date (I did an emerge world not too long
> ago)
> 
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This seems to be an extremely temperamental feature and is not 
documented anywhere AFAIK.  For me /etc/portage/package.unmask worked on 
~x86 but not on x86.  The only thing I can suggest is that you speak to 
carpaski on irc.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Brett Simpson]

>>> Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@gentoo.org> 07/09/03 16:38 PM >>>

> That should be covered by optional useflags

What about splitting apache into apache (for 1.3.x) and apache2 (for 2.0.x) into a virtual setup similair to what was done with sendmail, postfix, qmail, and etc? I would think this would help with those who want the Apache 2.0.x versions as stable without affecting those who want 1.3.x.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Robin H.Johnson]

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On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 11:47:24PM -0400, Brett Simpson wrote:
> What about splitting apache into apache (for 1.3.x) and apache2 (for
> 2.0.x) into a virtual setup similair to what was done with sendmail,
> postfix, qmail, and etc? I would think this would help with those who
> want the Apache 2.0.x versions as stable without affecting those who
> want 1.3.x.
Apache 1 and 2 _are_ slotted seperately, so you can explictly install
Apache1 with "emerge '=net-www/apache-1*'" and it will not conflict with
Apache2. You can even have both of them installed simultaneously if you
want.

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[gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Donny Davies]

  Sometime this weekend (likely Friday or Saturday) Robin and I
will move these two packages to non-arch-masked status.  So you
will no longer get the older versions by default.  Yes, old
versions will still be available; we're not going to delete
Apache1 nor MySQL3 ebuilds.  They will be kept available for
those who still want them.

  In the case of MySQL4, you should run revdep-rebuild after
your upgrade, so that your libmysqlclient-dependant packages
are linked with the new library.  Please `emerge gentoolkit'
to obtain the revdep-rebuild program.

  In the case of Apache2, be aware that several of what *were*
third-party DSO modules, are now included with Apache itself.
This means that you don't need to install mod_gzip, mod_ssl,
mod_auth_ldap, mod_dav from /usr/portage/net-www anymore.
Also, the whole `ebuild /var/db/pkg/cat/pkg/pkg.ebuild config'
dance is not required for thirdy-party modules anymore, due
to a simpler default configuration file schema.

  Thank you to everybody who has provided testing and feedback
with respect to these upgrades.

                Donny.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Alvaro Figueroa Cabezas]

On Jul 08 23:12, Donny Davies wrote:
> Sometime this weekend (likely Friday or Saturday) Robin and I
> will move these two packages to non-arch-masked status.

I was just wondering, is php+apache2 mature enought to do this? It seems
like less than two months since php changed its SAPI module code.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Matthew Walker]

Alvaro Figueroa Cabezas said:
> On Jul 08 23:12, Donny Davies wrote:
>> Sometime this weekend (likely Friday or Saturday) Robin and I
>> will move these two packages to non-arch-masked status.
>
> I was just wondering, is php+apache2 mature enought to do this? It seems
> like less than two months since php changed its SAPI module code.

I've got a couple smallish servers running php+apache2 with no problems at
all. What disturbs me is that unless things have changed, php doesn't build
for apache2 unless the apache2 useflag is set. How is this going to affect
people when the update is done?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Alvaro Figueroa Cabezas]

On Jul 09 13:16, Matthew Walker wrote:

> > I was just wondering, is php+apache2 mature enought to do this? It seems
> > like less than two months since php changed its SAPI module code.
> 
> I've got a couple smallish servers running php+apache2 with no problems at
> all.

We also have a couple of small/developer boxes running apache2+php, but
this is obviusly not enought to call it *mature*.

What is the word amoung the php community?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Paul de Vrieze]

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On Wednesday 09 July 2003 21:16, Matthew Walker wrote:
> Alvaro Figueroa Cabezas said:
> > On Jul 08 23:12, Donny Davies wrote:
> >> Sometime this weekend (likely Friday or Saturday) Robin and I
> >> will move these two packages to non-arch-masked status.
> >
> > I was just wondering, is php+apache2 mature enought to do this? It seems
> > like less than two months since php changed its SAPI module code.
>
> I've got a couple smallish servers running php+apache2 with no problems at
> all. What disturbs me is that unless things have changed, php doesn't build
> for apache2 unless the apache2 useflag is set. How is this going to affect
> people when the update is done?

That should be covered by optional useflags

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Owen Gunden]

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 11:12:14PM -0400, Donny Davies wrote:
>  [ crucial information about apache/mysql upgrade ]

This looks like very important information.  Maybe it should be posted to
the forums as well?  

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Weeve]

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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 23:12:14 -0400
Donny Davies <woodchip@gentoo.org> wrote:

>   Sometime this weekend (likely Friday or Saturday) Robin and I
> will move these two packages to non-arch-masked status.

Does this mean you are marking it stable?  If so, sparc is not ready for this yet as if the https process is loaded, apache will not respond on any of the ports it's running on.  This is related to bug #7172.

As a side note, if anyone has any suggestions/ideas/fixes for bug #7172, please add them to the bug.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Robin H.Johnson]

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On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 12:13:06PM -0400, Weeve wrote:
> Does this mean you are marking it stable?  If so, sparc is not ready
> for this yet as if the https process is loaded, apache will not
> respond on any of the ports it's running on.  This is related to bug
> #7172.
This is appears to be mod_ssl for Apache1 or Apache2, so either the
problem has less baring on Apache than the mod_ssl component.

If you want, we can keep Apache2 as ~sparc for the moment (I'd prefer
not to as mod_ssl doesn't work in any case on your UltraSparc).
My preferred choice would an ewarn for when you merge in Apache2 and
have USE=ssl.

I'd also like to suggest that you go to the mod_ssl / Apache2-SSL
developers with the problem.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Weeve]

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On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:15:10 -0700
"Robin H.Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org> wrote:

> This is appears to be mod_ssl for Apache1 or Apache2, so either the
> problem has less baring on Apache than the mod_ssl component.

As mod_ssl is now included by default in Apache2, I feel it is baring
enough as a lot of sparc users want this functionality when the emerge
Apache.

> If you want, we can keep Apache2 as ~sparc for the moment (I'd prefer
> not to as mod_ssl doesn't work in any case on your UltraSparc).
> My preferred choice would an ewarn for when you merge in Apache2 and
> have USE=ssl.

For now I'd like to keep it as ~sparc.  I don't feel it's fair to our
users to knowingly mark ebuilds stable with broken functionality.

> I'd also like to suggest that you go to the mod_ssl / Apache2-SSL
> developers with the problem.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stable status

[Stewart Honsberger]

Donny Davies wrote:
>  Sometime this weekend (likely Friday or Saturday) Robin and I
> will move these two packages to non-arch-masked status.  So you
> will no longer get the older versions by default.  Yes, old
> versions will still be available; we're not going to delete
> Apache1 nor MySQL3 ebuilds.  They will be kept available for
> those who still want them.

Not to be overly pedantic, but is it wise to mark Apache 2 as stable 
right now?

http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.html

That's quite the frightening update for such a major component of 
Gentoo, and it's very recent. :/

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