From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev-return-4037-arch-gentoo-dev=gentoo.org@gentoo.org> Received: (qmail 19776 invoked by uid 1002); 25 Jun 2003 14:08:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev-unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev-subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 17800 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2003 14:08:46 -0000 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 23:08:44 +0900 From: Stuart Bouyer <stubear@bouyer.no-ip.org> To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Message-Id: <20030625230844.41f8121f.stubear@bouyer.no-ip.org> In-Reply-To: <181950000.1056547091@localhost> References: <20030624005813.GA5061@cerberus.oppresses.us> <20030624031603.6ddf9456.xwred1@xwredwing.net> <20030624171810.GA11676@cerberus.oppresses.us> <20030624162733.26377e48.xwred1@xwredwing.net> <20030625003039.GB25581@cerberus.oppresses.us> <20030624212200.29afd907.xwred1@xwredwing.net> <20030625041956.GA27580@cerberus.oppresses.us> <20030624214904.4a08cefb.xwred1@xwredwing.net> <20030625045343.GA27897@cerberus.oppresses.us> <20030624221257.50aab7c5.xwred1@xwredwing.net> <20030625051527.GA28137@cerberus.oppresses.us> <62420000.1056535645@localhost> <20030625042245.6d729118.xwred1@xwredwing.net> <181950000.1056547091@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.0claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Weekly News Letter - "Where is Gentoo Linux 1.4" X-Archives-Salt: a3573717-6a23-45a3-bad8-a27903acde42 X-Archives-Hash: 414bec1afcf7d78f3cd9d086c4e014d5 On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:18:11 +0000 rob holland <robh@gentoo.org> wrote: > > --On Wednesday, June 25, 2003 04:22:45 -0700 Matt Thrailkill > <xwred1@xwredwing.net> wrote: > > Firstly, this is not a flame. Please give me the benefit of the doubt > in that respect :) > > > Just a meager user comment. I run Gentoo "stable" on my desktop and > > laptop, but it seems like things still change a bit too much and too > > largely to where I'd feel comfortable deploying it on a server. > <snip,snip> > Also, I think you misunderstand "releases". 1.4 is a release of an > install CD and maybe GRP. Thats it. It makes no difference to the > actual system once you start running emerge sync you'll be back in the > same place as someone who installed with a 1.3 install CD and has been > running emerge sync. I think you misunderstand the complaint here. The problem (which has been brought up this list previously) is that there is no way to guarantee that I can get my server back to it's current configuration if I have to reinstall at a later date. Not only will new versions of ebuilds have been added to the portage tree, but there is a great chance that ebuild for the version of the package that I'm happy using will no longer be in portage tree. What I install using the 1.3 install CD today will be very different from what I installed 3 months ago. If I don't want to update to the new package - and there are many reasons why I would not want to - then my only optinos are not to emerge sync (and miss out on the update I do need) or to manually find the ebuilds I want in the attic of the web cvs gateway. The lack of a "static" version of gentoo is what is keeping me from using it on a server. StuBear -- GnuPG KeyID 1607E7F7 Key fingerprint = 5C38 AA94 A4C1 6AAF 0EE4 C089 EE01 193D 1607 E7F7 gpg --keyserver search.keyserver.net --recv-keys 1607E7F7 -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list