From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19150 invoked by uid 1002); 23 Jun 2003 07:05:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 14592 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 07:05:50 -0000 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 03:05:48 -0400 From: Jon Portnoy To: Philippe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lafoucri=E8re?= Cc: Gentoo-dev Message-ID: <20030623070548.GA29975@cerberus.oppresses.us> References: <1056349331.2276.8.camel@biproc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1056349331.2276.8.camel@biproc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Weekly News Letter - "Where is Gentoo Linux 1.4" X-Archives-Salt: 0965d96e-2570-4c4a-8be5-9e261a296193 X-Archives-Hash: d02a0b7ba7757283eb960e03306f2a3e On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 08:22:11AM +0200, Philippe Lafoucri=E8re wrote: > I was reading the new newsletter, especially the part : "Releases do no= t > matter in Gentoo Linux.".If releases really doesn't matter, why 1.4 > isn't out ? I DO know you can use a 1.4RC1/2/3/4 live cd have an up to > date system with emerge -u, but newbies don't. >=20 > This is a really bad idea to add more and more features to live cds > without release. People that have never tried gentoo would think this i= s > a permanent BETA, which is not. Gentoo is really mature and stable now. >=20 > Maybe we'll need a Gentoo Project Leader, as Debian did. If there's > already one, he has to communicate much more ! Gentoo really needs some > serious management, and especially a ROADMAP. Gentoo users are walking > in fog now... >=20 There are two versions: release versions and profile versions. Release versions _only apply to install media_. Profile versions (such as default-x86-1.4) define the characteristics of=20 your installed system. 1.4 isn't out because it's not ready. Frankly, I can cook you up a=20 half-baked LiveCD and set of stages with absolutely no value over rc4=20 right now, if you're that obsessed with having something out there with=20 '1.4' on it. Instead, we're trying to get you, the user, things like=20 GRP, an enhanced LiveCD, automatic CFLAGS generation and kernel initrd=20 creation, and so on. Futurely we will probably be removing 'rc' from the version number=20 because it suggests 'beta' to people, which is not the case. We will=20 probably move to a system like 1.5, 1.5.1, 1.5.2... I am not sure what you mean by 'project leader' - do you think that=20 currently there is nobody in charge at all? Perhaps you can elaborate=20 here. (Daniel Robbins is effectively our 'project leader' - I am the=20 releases coordinator.) What kinds of communication are you looking for? When anyone has asked,=20 I have been happy to tell them what's going on with releases. With=20 regards to a roadmap, what kind of roadmap? For what in particular?=20 Portage? Releases? Looking for constructive suggestions, --=20 Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list