* [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Linux Enhancement Proposals
@ 2003-06-06 19:55 Grant Goodyear
2003-06-07 10:52 ` Michael Kohl
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From: Grant Goodyear @ 2003-06-06 19:55 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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Recently we've had a fair number of "big" projects proposed, both on the
-core list and on the -dev list, including herds, udder, refinement of
-stable and -stats (now subsumed by herds?), uid/gid handling, new types
of init scripts, hardened gentoo, using "delta"s when upgrading gentoo
packages, and probably a number of other things that have dropped off
the scope. Unfortunately, we have no single repository of these
proposals, which means that it's very easy for both good and bad ideas
to be proposed and then quickly forgotten.
My proposal is that we adopt Python's concept of Python Enhancement
Proposals (http://www.python.org/peps/), which serves as Python's system
for handling large-scale proposals. (Incidentally, Gnome has also
adopted this idea, calling them Gnome Enhancement Proposals:
http://developer.gnome.org/gep/list.html.)
I've made a start. Take a look at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep,
and you'll see two informational GLEPs already present. (If you want to
make your own GLEP proposal, see the README.txt file in
http://cvs.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/glep/ as well as GLEP 2. Incidentally, the reason for choosing ReST, barely-marked-up text, as the base format is to make proposals simple to write without too much worry about the formatting. It should be relatively simple to convert ReST to our guide-xml, if desired.)
Here's the comments that have been made so far about this GLEP proposal
from other developers:
* Numerous votes in favor.
* It's been suggested out that GLEPs will solve the problem of a
moderator on the mailing lists to summarize where current proposals are,
as that's now the job of the GLEP authors, help increase signal-to-noise
on -dev, and help consolidate pros and cons.
* Existing Gentoo devs are willing to help with infrastructure and
creating any needed new tools.
* One comment that perhaps it would make more sense for people to
develop GLEPs (until ratified) on the new gentoo development wiki. I'm
biased, but I prefer a more formal proposal submission method because I
think people are more likely to spend time polishing it before
submitting it.
Now it's time to open up this idea to the general Gentoo Linux
community. Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions?
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Grant Goodyear <g2boojum@gentoo.org>
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Linux Enhancement Proposals
2003-06-06 19:55 [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Linux Enhancement Proposals Grant Goodyear
@ 2003-06-07 10:52 ` Michael Kohl
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From: Michael Kohl @ 2003-06-07 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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On 06 Jun 2003 15:55:45 -0400
Grant Goodyear <g2boojum@gentoo.org> wrote:
[GLEP explanantion snipped]
> Now it's time to open up this idea to the general Gentoo Linux
> community. Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions?
I was waiting for a thing like this for quite a while, and now the Wiki
as well as your idea come up. :)
I really thing something like this is needed, as it sometimes really is
rather difficult to keep track of the things proposed on -dev. I
recently started to write a document for personal use about proposals
for Portage (because that's what I'm most interested in) because of
this...
If all people submitting GLEP's obey to the layed out guidelines
(http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0001.html), this project would
be a great ressource for people interested in the future development of
Gentoo Linux.
Michael
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