[gentoo-dev] XFree

[gentoo-dev] XFree

[Philippe Namias]

	Hi,

Did you plan to include XFree 3.3.6 in Gentoo. Because my notebook didn't 
support XFree4.
I use the SVGA driver from XFree 3.3.6 to make working X under my notebook.
If i had it to portage, are you agree with it? or did it conflict too much 
with other package?

Thanks for your help.
Philippe Namias

Re: [gentoo-dev] XFree

[Achim Gottinger]

Philippe Namias wrote:

>         Hi,
>
> Did you plan to include XFree 3.3.6 in Gentoo. Because my notebook didn't
> support XFree4.
> I use the SVGA driver from XFree 3.3.6 to make working X under my notebook.
> If i had it to portage, are you agree with it? or did it conflict too much
> with other package?

Hmm, maybe we have some old ebuild for xfree 3.3.6 here.
Did you try to use the framebuffer mode?

achim~

>
>
> Thanks for your help.
> Philippe Namias
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[gentoo-dev] xfree

[Seemant Kulleen]

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Hi All,

Well, I've checked in a masked -r3 ebuild for xfree-4.3.0.  In it, I have the fonts moved into /usr/share/fonts.  I would like this to undergo testing, and also I would like some opinions/feedback on this move.  Just to catch everyone up: I'll be moving the fonts packages in portage all to media-fonts categories, and make them install into /usr/share/fonts instead.  

Additionally, the roadmap for -r3 is to remove ALL font building from xfree entirely and shove them into separate packages.  The two possible exceptions will be 75dpi and 100dpi fonts, but even those might move and become PDEPENDs.

As such, the current -r3 in portage is just part way there.

I am very interested in opinions before I proceed along this path.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-dev] xfree

[Paul de Vrieze]

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On Thursday 29 May 2003 06:12, Seemant Kulleen wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Well, I've checked in a masked -r3 ebuild for xfree-4.3.0.  In it, I have
> the fonts moved into /usr/share/fonts.  I would like this to undergo
> testing, and also I would like some opinions/feedback on this move.  Just
> to catch everyone up: I'll be moving the fonts packages in portage all to
> media-fonts categories, and make them install into /usr/share/fonts
> instead.
>
> Additionally, the roadmap for -r3 is to remove ALL font building from xfree
> entirely and shove them into separate packages.  The two possible
> exceptions will be 75dpi and 100dpi fonts, but even those might move and
> become PDEPENDs.
>
> As such, the current -r3 in portage is just part way there.
>
> I am very interested in opinions before I proceed along this path.

That would be cool (take fontconfig into account though). This would mean a 
lot less time needed to build xfree, and probably a lot less possible 
breakage when updating xfree.

Paul

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Re: [gentoo-dev] xfree

[Troy Dack]

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On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 14:12, Seemant Kulleen wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Well, I've checked in a masked -r3 ebuild for xfree-4.3.0.  In it, I
> have the fonts moved into /usr/share/fonts.  I would like this to 
> undergo testing, and also I would like some opinions/feedback on this
> move.  Just to catch everyone up: I'll be moving the fonts packages in
> portage all to media-fonts categories, and make them install into
> /usr/share/fonts instead.  
> 
> Additionally, the roadmap for -r3 is to remove ALL font building from 
> xfree entirely and shove them into separate packages.  The two possible 
> exceptions will be 75dpi and 100dpi fonts, but even those might move and
> become PDEPENDs.
> 
> As such, the current -r3 in portage is just part way there.
> 
> I am very interested in opinions before I proceed along this path.
> 

Any chance of an optional postinst/pkgconfig to move fonts from
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ to /usr/share/fonts and rebuild
fonts.{dir,scale,cache*}/encodings.dir entries?

How is this likely to impact on things like the KDE and it's Font
Installer? It currently picks /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts as being the base
for fonts (I guess a nasty symlink could be used as a worst case fix).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] xfree

[Troy Dack]

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On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 14:12, Seemant Kulleen wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Well, I've checked in a masked -r3 ebuild for xfree-4.3.0.  In it, I have the fonts moved into /usr/share/fonts.  I would like this to undergo testing, and also I would like some opinions/feedback on this move.  Just to catch everyone up: I'll be moving the fonts packages in portage all to media-fonts categories, and make them install into /usr/share/fonts instead.  
> 
> Additionally, the roadmap for -r3 is to remove ALL font building from xfree entirely and shove them into separate packages.  The two possible exceptions will be 75dpi and 100dpi fonts, but even those might move and become PDEPENDs.
> 
> As such, the current -r3 in portage is just part way there.
> 
> I am very interested in opinions before I proceed along this path.
> 
> Thanks,

/etc/X11/XF86Config.example has the wrong font paths

Other than that it seems OK so far (but you changed my cursor, now I
have to find that damned file again!)

I'll see what:
	X -configure
does shortly.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] xfree

[Troy Dack]

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On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 23:32, I wrote:
> I'll see what:
> 	X -configure
> does shortly.

Works as advertised with correct font paths.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] xfree

[Ian Phillips]

Hi Seemant,

I think this move is a great idea. I've wanted to see this happen for
quite a while really but it always looked like a lot of work and testing
would be needed and I don't really have the time.

As for removing all fonts from xfree, I think it's a good idea in
principle but of fairly low priority. I can see a time in the future
when xfree won't use any unscaled fonts at all, everything will be
{open|true}type or PS, but while there are still apps that use unscaled
fonts it may be better to just leave the 75/100 dpi stuff as part of
xfree. I guess I don't really have to much of an opinion on this one.

That said, I'll rebuild xfree tonight and get testing your stuff
straight away!

Cheers,
Ian.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] xfree

[Seemant Kulleen]

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On 30 May 2003 11:29:39 +0200
"Ian Phillips" <ianp@tibco.com> wrote:

> As for removing all fonts from xfree, I think it's a good idea in
> principle but of fairly low priority. I can see a time in the future
> when xfree won't use any unscaled fonts at all, everything will be
> {open|true}type or PS, but while there are still apps that use unscaled
> fonts it may be better to just leave the 75/100 dpi stuff as part of
> xfree. I guess I don't really have to much of an opinion on this one.

Well, 75/100 dpi fonts will actually be PDEPENDS of the xfree ebuild.  The shtick is that those fonts will be built separately using tarball #4 from xfree, OR if the "prebuilt" USE flag is set, it'll just unpack a separate tarball that has those fonts generated already. The way it seems to me is that there really isn't any optimisation involved in generating fonts...

The biggest advantage to this is time savings.  The build of xfree itself will take much shorter time, and of course the font stuff can be as quick as an unpack, merge, and update of fontpaths..  Oh, also, there's been call for a while to remove the MS corefonts from the xfree build, so this achieves that as well. Now, as a user with political leanings, you have the option to not install the MS fonts and replace them with bitstream-vera or whatever you like.


Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-dev] xfree

[Seemant Kulleen]

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As a follow-up -- rsync in 30 minutes to get a version of -r3 that you can test with fonts in /usr/share/fonts.  As it currently stands, it is identical to -r2 except for font locations.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] xfree

[Toby Dickenson]

On Thursday 29 May 2003 05:12, Seemant Kulleen wrote:

> Well, I've checked in a masked -r3 ebuild for xfree-4.3.0.  In it, I have
> the fonts moved into /usr/share/fonts.

One thing I like about gentoo is that packages are installed the way that the 
original maintainers intended. Why be different in this case?

> Additionally, the roadmap for -r3 is to remove ALL font building from xfree
> entirely and shove them into separate packages. 

thats good.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] xfree

[Norberto BENSA]

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nbensa@venkman ~ $ date ; echo ${Seemant Kulleen}
Friday 30 May 2003 06:58 am

> As a follow-up -- rsync in 30 minutes to get a version of -r3 that you can
> test with fonts in /usr/share/fonts.  As it currently stands, it is
> identical to -r2 except for font locations.

And what about the keymaps?

Regards,
Norberto

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