[gentoo-dev] Some thougts about portage/emerge/ebuilds...

[gentoo-dev] Some thougts about portage/emerge/ebuilds...

[Claes Ström]

Hi devs!

Here is some thoughts I have about portage/emerge/ebuilds


1.
manpage don't tell me that -D = --deep (need to read pythonsource or read
response from "emerge --help" to figure out )


2.
When new things coming up like "fixpackages" and emerge responds that you
should change "FEATURES" or run "fixpackages". When this script is outside
of normal path, it would be nice if it was some hint where it's located.
(/usr/lib/portage/bin/fixpackages)


3.
When you do a deep pretended update world (emerge -vpuD world) and finds
some updates like: [ebuild    U ] dev-libs/glib-2.2.1-r1 [2.2.1] -doc
Then when you read Changes for this package and get a diff like this of the
ebuilds:

--- glib-2.2.1.ebuild   2003-03-30 23:27:33.000000000 +0200
+++ glib-2.2.1-r1.ebuild        2003-05-29 09:39:53.000000000 +0200
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 # Copyright 1999-2003 Gentoo Technologies, Inc.
 # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
-# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/dev-libs/glib/glib-2.2.1.ebuild,v 1.9
2003/03/30 21:27:33 joker Exp $
+# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/dev-libs/glib/glib-2.2.1-r1.ebuild,v
1.1 2003/05/29 07:39:53 utx Exp $

 inherit libtool

@@ -42,6 +42,18 @@

 src_install() {
        einstall || die
+
+       # Consider invalid UTF-8 filenames as locale-specific.
+       dodir /etc/env.d
+       echo "G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1" >${D}/etc/env.d/50glib2

        dodoc AUTHORS ChangeLog COPYING README* INSTALL NEWS NEWS.pre-1-3
 }
+
+pkg_postinst() {
+       env-update
+}
+
+pkg_postrm() {
+       env-update
+}

Why should I need to rebuild the whole glib2 to get one line appended to
/etc/env.d/50glib2 ?
Wouldn't it be nice if portage could handle small file updates instead of
rebuilding from scratch!

4.
I've seen many "etc-updates" with only "cvs-header-updates"!
It would be *nice* if "ebuild-devs" check this before releases...


BTW it looks like forums.gentoo.org is down!


My 2 USE-flags
Claes Ström


PS
I'm also think that the homepage should have more news/information collected
from the Forum, IRC, Bugzilla and mailing-lists. It could be done by some
"junior wannabes" who have time to "hang out" around the clock and trawl all
sources mentioned above and do some editorial work (daily).
Things like framebuffer- and icon-"toys" should have an own track
(for all the newbies who loves that stuff).


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some thougts about portage/emerge/ebuilds...

[Michael Kohl]

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Ok, this time to the list...

On Thu, 29 May 2003 23:23:31 +0200
Claes Ström <gentoodevlist@clabbe.com> wrote:

> I'm also think that the homepage should have more news/information
> collected from the Forum, IRC, Bugzilla and mailing-lists. It could be
> done by some"junior wannabes" who have time to "hang out" around the
> clock and trawl all sources mentioned above and do some editorial work
> (daily).

Isn't this exactly what we GWN [1] contributors do? I'm just not all
that happy being called a "junior wannabe" for this... ;)

Michael

[1]http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/gwn.xml

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some thougts about portage/emerge/ebuilds...

[Daniel Armyr]

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> Isn't this exactly what we GWN [1] contributors do? I'm just not all
> that happy being called a "junior wannabe" for this... ;)

Providing Claes with some un-asked-for support, I could point out that while GWN is a well-written, high-quality digest, it is not a very easy place to find things. Very good for reading up on what is happening right now, but now so much on finding how to do things. I think this refers to an extension of the Unofficial FAQs. More rough, less fine-tuned, but with easier to use when you need to find something.

--Daniel Armyr

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some thougts about portage/emerge/ebuilds...

[wes chow]

> Providing Claes with some un-asked-for support, I could point out that
> while GWN is a well-written, high-quality digest, it is not a very easy
> place to find things. Very good for reading up on what is happening
> right now, but now so much on finding how to do things. I think this
> refers to an extension of the Unofficial FAQs. More rough, less
> fine-tuned, but with easier to use when you need to find something.

Actually, maybe a wiki would be appropriate?

Oh wait, a Goole search found one:
http://gentoowiki.iq-computing.de/

Looks promising...


Wes


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some thougts about portage/emerge/ebuilds...

[Adam Mercer]

On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 11:23:31PM +0200, Claes Str?m wrote:
> BTW it looks like forums.gentoo.org is down!

AFAIK its down for some maintainance, they're adding more RAM and
upgraing MySQL IIRC.

Cheers

Adam

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