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From: Jon Portnoy <avenj@gentoo.org>
To: Rainer Groesslinger <rainer.groesslinger@gmx.net>
Cc: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Is there a process for marking ebuilds stable?
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:07:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030413230737.GA18713@cerberus.oppresses.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200304140100.51467.rainer.groesslinger@gmx.net>

On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 01:00:51AM +0200, Rainer Groesslinger wrote:
> On Monday 14 April 2003 00:25, Brad Laue wrote:
> > Given the increasing size of the portage tree I'm becoming concerned
> > about the rate at which ebuilds move from the unstable ~arch keyword to
> > the stable one.
> 
> correct, same here.
> Additionally there are many ebuilds in the tree that should be removed 
> again...for example most of the game mods (not because I don't like gamers 
> just because e.g. osp for quake3 isn't maintained although quite some time 
> passed already since the last osp release(s) and in a multiplayer game it's 
> useless to have an old version of something ;)

Submit an updated ebuild.

> 
> > Has a formalized process been discussed for this? The first thing that
> > comes to mind is a set of tinderboxes designed to build packages with
> > predictable flags sending reports to each ebuild maintainer.
> 
> Problem: Gentoo doesn't have maintainers !
> It has been discussed to introduce a MAINTAINER="xxxx@gentoo.org" thing in the 
> ebuilds but it seems like the idea got dropped by the core developers (or 
> didn't even get attention, I don't know).
> 
> The only real maintainer is carpaski for portage, most other packages are 
> worked on by more or less "Freelancers"...
> Sure, many people are related to something, but you can't see who is the 
> maintainer of a certain package.
> Just imagine...there are some packages where version 0.1 was submitted by dev 
> A, 0.2 by dev B and 0.2.1 by dev C and 0.3 again by dev B etc.
> 

Read changelogs.

> Not, that this is bad at all, but it would be much better to have "real" 
> maintainers like almost every other distribution has, too.

We have real maintainers. For example, I maintain a handful of packages.

Could you be more specific about what constitutes a "real" maintainer?

> 
> > The second is more practical and within reach; advocacy of
> > stable.gentoo.org, and a policy of accepting a package as stable when
> > five or more users have vouched for it and two weeks have passed without
> > a bug report.
> 
> stable.gentoo.org is _great_ ! Thanks so much to blizzy (unfortunatly he's not 
> in the dev team any more). The problem here is that this site must be pushed 
> quite hard because there are packages in the tree only a few people use and 
> if those people don't use stable.gentoo.org they won't be stable anytime soon 
> or might - in a bad case - be pushed into stable because nobody complain 
> although it's just because nobody uses stable.gentoo.org
> 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-04-13 23:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-13 22:25 [gentoo-dev] Is there a process for marking ebuilds stable? Brad Laue
2003-04-13 23:00 ` Rainer Groesslinger
2003-04-13 23:07   ` Rainer Groesslinger
2003-04-13 23:07   ` Jon Portnoy [this message]
2003-04-14  9:31     ` Rainer Groesslinger
2003-04-14  7:32   ` Fredrik Jagenheim
2003-04-14  9:00     ` Michael Kohl
2003-04-14 11:04       ` Fredrik Jagenheim
2003-04-14 16:29         ` Mikael Andersson
2003-04-14 20:31           ` Alec Berryman
2003-04-14 21:48             ` Brad Laue
2003-04-14 21:58               ` Alec Berryman
2003-04-15 11:07                 ` Mikael Andersson
2003-04-14 22:03           ` Brad Laue
2003-04-14 15:07     ` Brad Laue
2003-04-14 19:39       ` C. Brewer
2003-04-15  6:21         ` Abhishek Amit
2003-04-15  9:09           ` Fredrik Jagenheim
2003-04-16  0:34           ` C. Brewer
2003-04-15 13:53         ` Brad Laue
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-15  2:08 Todd Wright
2003-04-15  2:30 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-04-15  5:41 ` Dylan Carlson

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