[gentoo-dev] Request for comments/testers

[gentoo-dev] Request for comments/testers

[Paul de Vrieze]

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Hi all,

I just submitted a number of patches to bug 
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14872

Those patches change the way that the displaymanagers (graphical login 
screens) work. These patches allow for scripts to be executed before and 
after a session. The main use for this are gpg-agent that is used for kmail, 
and input method editors such as xcin and kanna. I would like to hear some 
comments on this work.

To make things easy I made two zipfiles available on my website which also 
contain those ebuilds. The first one:
http://www.cs.kun.nl/~pauldv/ebuilds/presession.zip
provides the actual ebuilds providing the post/pre session architecture.

The second one:
http://www.cs.kun.nl/~pauldv/ebuilds/newpg.zip
provides an example use for the architecture in the shape of a new version of 
newpg. Newpg provides the gpg-agent program which is used for gpg support in 
the new kmail. For that to work gpg-agent needs to be started before kde. 
This package does that using the architecture.

I would like to have comments and suggestions concerning these packages.

I am aware that there are no distributions as yet providing this 
functionality, but I do believe that it is useful and should be provided.

Paul

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Mail: pauldv@cs.kun.nl
Homepage: http://www.cs.kun.nl/~pauldv

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for comments/testers

[Dan Armak]

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Hi Paul,

I was planning to do something to support gpg-agent generically for kmail 
"after the 1.4 release", as it's a pretty big change. Since you've beat me to 
it though :-), I'll look at your changes and if I like it will put it this 
weekend into ~ profiles.

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Gentoo Linux developer (KDE)
Matan, Israel
Public GPG key: http://cvs.gentoo.org/~danarmak/danarmak-gpg-public.key

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for comments/testers

[Dan Armak]

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On Thursday 10 April 2003 22:39, Dan Armak wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> I was planning to do something to support gpg-agent generically for kmail 
> "after the 1.4 release", as it's a pretty big change. Since you've beat me 
to 
> it though :-), I'll look at your changes and if I like it will put it this 
> weekend into ~ profiles.

Um, I wrote that without thinking enough and without having looked at the 
patches. They are to xfree and gdm; I didn't imply I'd touch either of those 
packages without an ok from the maintainers. I will look at the whole thing 
though. (Still haven't.)


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Dan Armak
Gentoo Linux developer (KDE)
Matan, Israel
Public GPG key: http://cvs.gentoo.org/~danarmak/danarmak-gpg-public.key

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for comments/testers

[Paul de Vrieze]

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On Thursday 10 April 2003 23:49, Dan Armak wrote:
> On Thursday 10 April 2003 22:39, Dan Armak wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > I was planning to do something to support gpg-agent generically for kmail
> > "after the 1.4 release", as it's a pretty big change. Since you've beat
> > me
>
> to
>
> > it though :-), I'll look at your changes and if I like it will put it
> > this weekend into ~ profiles.
>
> Um, I wrote that without thinking enough and without having looked at the
> patches. They are to xfree and gdm; I didn't imply I'd touch either of
> those packages without an ok from the maintainers. I will look at the whole
> thing though. (Still haven't.)

That's why it is a request for comments. I know it are patches to rather 
central parts, and (except for the newpg patch) they are only useful when 
used together. I basically made the patches myself because I felt there is a 
need for this kind of feature, and there had not been real reactions on my 
suggestions. I thought the best way to convince people of the use is to show 
what I mean and what it does. But these patches do impose an architectural 
change, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if people prefer other ways of 
reaching the same goal.

Paul

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Paul de Vrieze
Researcher
Mail: pauldv@cs.kun.nl
Homepage: http://www.cs.kun.nl/~pauldv

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for comments/testers

[Bernhard Bock]

On Friday 11 April 2003 10:16, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> That's why it is a request for comments. I know it are patches to rather
> central parts, and (except for the newpg patch) they are only useful when
> used together. I basically made the patches myself because I felt there is
> a need for this kind of feature, and there had not been real reactions on
> my suggestions.

I tested the patch and the ebuilds here on my workstation. Works like a charm!

I also tested the concept with the ssh-agent (one-liner bash script in 
/etc/X11/presession.d). As everyone would expect, also works great.

I'd vote for using this patches, as they are quite intuitive to use, and IMHO 
consistent with "the gentoo way".

regards
Bernhard



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for comments/testers

[Norberto BENSA]

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nbensa@venkman $ date ; echo ${Paul de Vrieze}
Wednesday 09 April 2003 10:23 am

> Hi all,
>

Hello Paul,

> To make things easy I made two zipfiles available on my website which also
> contain those ebuilds. The first one:
> http://www.cs.kun.nl/~pauldv/ebuilds/presession.zip

What's inside xfree*-r990 ebuilds? Can't see any difference... 

BTW, why .zip?


Best regards,
Norberto

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for comments/testers

[Paul de Vrieze]

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On Sunday 13 April 2003 20:35, Norberto BENSA wrote:
> nbensa@venkman $ date ; echo ${Paul de Vrieze}
> Wednesday 09 April 2003 10:23 am
>
> > Hi all,
>
> Hello Paul,
>
> > To make things easy I made two zipfiles available on my website which
> > also contain those ebuilds. The first one:
> > http://www.cs.kun.nl/~pauldv/ebuilds/presession.zip
>
> What's inside xfree*-r990 ebuilds? Can't see any difference...

The ebuilds are the same, actually. Just the XSession file is different.

>
> BTW, why .zip?

I don't really know. Maybe .zip is less typing than .tar.bz2

Paul

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Mail: pauldv@cs.kun.nl
Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

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